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      01-09-2014, 12:35 AM   #45
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Eh, the front looks like someone took a hammer to the sides and it's all squished. Rear end I can handle, but that front end is horrendous. The M4 looks so much better it's not even funny (IMO).

I can't stop looking at your sig, that is so nice. I've been eyeing a red BRZ the past couple of weeks.
I can respect that. It looks like they're taking two different approaches at this point... same class of car, just a different form of expression.

M will probably continue doing what they've always done. Take an already classically proportioned template, dress it up a bit so those "in the know" will get it, but don't overdo it. It's sort of expected as to what we're going to see these days. Which is fine, but I'm a bit tired of the recipe. (For the record, I would still sell a kidney for an M4)

I just like the level of detail in the RC-F. It's rare that I get so emotionally caught up in a car's design. I like to break it down and analyze it from chin to tail, so this has given me a lot to work with.

The FRS in my sig is my ideal GT86 if I was going to get one. Was dead set on basically replicating the guy below's build, but I think I'm going to be getting a 2015 Stang if the drive turns out to be promising. Decisions, decisions...
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      01-09-2014, 04:44 AM   #46
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Lexus' huge aggressive front end works really well on their high performance cars. It looks good on the RC-F and that LC-LF is gorgeous

I saw a red F-Sport upclose yesterday.. I have to say, their new design wins me over the more I see it in person.

I can't wait for the unveiling of the ATS-V this month at the detroit auto show.
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      01-09-2014, 09:22 AM   #48
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I can respect that. It looks like they're taking two different approaches at this point... same class of car, just a different form of expression.

M will probably continue doing what they've always done. Take an already classically proportioned template, dress it up a bit so those "in the know" will get it, but don't overdo it. It's sort of expected as to what we're going to see these days. Which is fine, but I'm a bit tired of the recipe. (For the record, I would still sell a kidney for an M4)

I just like the level of detail in the RC-F. It's rare that I get so emotionally caught up in a car's design. I like to break it down and analyze it from chin to tail, so this has given me a lot to work with.

The FRS in my sig is my ideal GT86 if I was going to get one. Was dead set on basically replicating the guy below's build, but I think I'm going to be getting a 2015 Stang if the drive turns out to be promising. Decisions, decisions...
Ok after seeing the video, it definitely looks better than static pictures. But I still stand by the fact that I think the fenders look squished, and the headlights are just disproportionally small. Oh and no MT is also a deal breaker for me anyway haha.

Yea I'm keeping a close eye on the BRZ. Too many rumors about the power bump during LCI so I'm definitely not in any hurry to get one. They are enticing to me because neither of my 2 cars average more than 20mpg haha. I've really warmed up to the Mustang (although I'm still not 100% sure about the rear bumper), but it doesn't make sense for me to have 2 big V8 coupes. So I'm looking to go completely opposite end of the spectrum... or dream about a Porsche haha
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      01-09-2014, 09:24 AM   #49
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I can respect that. It looks like they're taking two different approaches at this point... same class of car, just a different form of expression.

M will probably continue doing what they've always done. Take an already classically proportioned template, dress it up a bit so those "in the know" will get it, but don't overdo it. It's sort of expected as to what we're going to see these days. Which is fine, but I'm a bit tired of the recipe. (For the record, I would still sell a kidney for an M4)

I just like the level of detail in the RC-F. It's rare that I get so emotionally caught up in a car's design. I like to break it down and analyze it from chin to tail, so this has given me a lot to work with.

The FRS in my sig is my ideal GT86 if I was going to get one. Was dead set on basically replicating the guy below's build, but I think I'm going to be getting a 2015 Stang if the drive turns out to be promising. Decisions, decisions...
Well said. M4 is a winner but the RC-F can't be ignored. Sure, there are design elements that I probably would have done differently but the side profile and stance is amazing. There are also quite a lot of nice features that you will notice if you pay attention. For a first attempt at a coupe in this segment Lexus has done a good job.

Someone also made a comment earlier that things have changed and M isn't necessarily the clear winner anymore. I tend to agree with that. I think now the M/AMG/RS/F rivals are all offering serious packages; in the end it comes down to personal preference.
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Thats bloody hideous!
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      01-09-2014, 11:12 AM   #51
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I love the interior. It's way better than the M4's.
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      01-09-2014, 11:33 AM   #52
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Love this car..Atleast they had some balls when designing it
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      01-09-2014, 12:16 PM   #53
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So any truth to the 3,900+ lbs rumors?
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      01-09-2014, 12:21 PM   #54
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So any truth to the 3,900+ lbs rumors?
No one knows. No one knows the final MSRP, no one knows the weight, the 0-60, etc. Any rumors right now are just hear-say and imagination.
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      01-09-2014, 12:57 PM   #55
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m3/4 is going to have some serious competition this time around.

we still haven't seen what amg and caddy have up their sleeves yet.

this generation is going to be fun.
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      01-09-2014, 02:42 PM   #56
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m3/4 is going to have some serious competition this time around.

we still haven't seen what amg and caddy have up their sleeves yet.

this generation is going to be fun.
Yes. The AMG gets a 4.0l V8 Biturbo making close to 500 PS. ATS-V should get a 3.6l V6 Turbo, and Audi RS5 (should come no later than 2 years after new A5) would get 3.0l V6 Turbo like in the Panamera, but make more power and be much lighter, it would be around 100 kg more than M4, but with AWD. Too bad There is no Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA. Comes late because design started from scratch, new style, new (RWD) platform.
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      01-09-2014, 03:07 PM   #57
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I don't think it's all that bad looking, however:

Wish the silver trim around the grill was a diff color

Wish the C pillar didnt slope as far to the trunk. Makes it almost look like a hatchback.
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"Lexus is putting some really nice stuff out these days"
"Polarizing design"
"Love it"

Are u all looking at the same mish-mosh of lines & disgusting grill to go with a dated/crap interior? Lexus design team should be led out back and shot.
Opinions/assholes bla bla bla.

Ugly is ugly

+1 the entire Lexota portfolio is trash. This car lacks any sense of design cohesion and just seems to be another iteration of "Techno" kitsch exclusive to the Japanese.
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I think new Lexus RC-F looks great, very futuristic and future oriented car. In 2 years or so 4-series/M4 will look dated, actually they already look dated. Lexus RC-F looks like it's 2 generation ahead of BMW in terms of interior and exterior design. Much more modern looking car. And with nice LFA-style front bodykit it will look so much more exotic...
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I'm not a fan of the RC-F or the M4 to be honest. The Lexus does have a pretty amazing interior though and I bet the performance will be top of the class. Exterior design will likely grow on me but I agree with others that it is simply too polarizing and garish in a segment where subtlety and class are becoming sadly forgotten these days...
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I'm in love with those seats & gauges. Props to Lexus for sticking with a V8
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The V8 excites me and the interior is great too! Things
I am worried about:
Slow/outdated 8 speed auto (I doubt it is a DCT)
Side profile is busy, especially the hood bump
C pillar almost huge as current Camaro

I always thought Lexus' were pretty bland, or cookie cutter cars. Well, someone just had an awakening, and I like it.
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lexus rcf issues. c pillar of doom, front looks horrid, rear looks so jumbled....... move along.
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Maybe it's time some of you got glasses. The interior looks good??
Maybe circa 1993.
Dated, and looks like it belongs in a car HALF it's price - and that's speculating this car being the sport-bargain of the century
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Maybe it's time some of you got glasses. The interior looks good??
Maybe circa 1993.
Dated, and looks like it belongs in a car HALF it's price - and that's speculating this car being the sport-bargain of the century
Says the troll driving a BMW with literally the worst interior they've made in the past decade (good thing it drives like a dream). You obviously haven't had a seat in a late-gen IS. You'd realize that the materials are at least as good as the stuff they're putting in the F30 and F80.
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Maybe it's time some of you got glasses. The interior looks good??
Maybe circa 1993.
Dated, and looks like it belongs in a car HALF it's price - and that's speculating this car being the sport-bargain of the century
Says the troll driving a BMW with literally the worst interior they've made in the past decade (good thing it drives like a dream). You obviously haven't had a seat in a late-gen IS. You'd realize that the materials are at least as good as the stuff they're putting in the F30 and F80.
Aww don't get butt-hurt champ. Just calling it as I see it. For the price they're going to charge for this car... the interior is GARBAGE in my eyes.
And FYI if u think the interior had anything to do with the purchase of my weekend E86... Then you know less about cars than I even gave u credit for. Run along punk
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