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12-17-2013, 07:24 AM | #23 | |
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thanks for all your advise btw.... if i had an m3 it would be this kit i shoot for no doubt!!
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12-17-2013, 07:47 AM | #26 | |
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I honestly don't know if it's the right shape for your application. I searched for the pad used by the AP racing CP5575 part number you gave me. Do you have the old Pagid boxes, or a receipt from the Pagid pads? If so, we can cross reference those numbers to Ferodo to make sure we're looking at the right part #. If all else fails, tracing the pad on a piece of paper and faxing it to us is an option as well. We can help if you email us. Thanks. |
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12-17-2013, 01:38 PM | #28 |
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Am trying to understand the rationale here. The reason people upgrade to BBK for the E9X platform is because the stock system cannot dissipate heat effectively. Folks go with 380mm or 378mm FROM stock 360mm. This is almost a step backwards in terms of total area (of rotor).
While it may work with a lighter Corvette, in my case my car weights 3800lbs (yes on the scale) and I go through set of Pagid Yellow or PF08 pads (front) each track weekend (on almost all the tracks I attend) with the stock brake system. Going with smaller rotor is counterintuitive in this case for me, hence asking the question. Thanks, Lutfy |
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12-18-2013, 01:38 PM | #30 |
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Welcome to the forum! If you need another M3 to test fit or *ahem* test them over a long period of time, let me know. I'm in the Charlotte/Greenville area. I had no idea such a company existed here!?
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12-19-2013, 07:47 AM | #31 |
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Thanks! Yep, we're right in your backyard. We already have a couple of cars we've been using to test fit, etc., so I think we're covered there. You're welcome to stop by at any time for a tour of our facility or to check out our products. They will come in very handy down at CMP, or over at VIR, Road Atlanta, etc.
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12-19-2013, 09:53 AM | #32 |
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I also wanted to note that if you want to be kept in the loop on the latest developments with out brake kits, please like us on Facebook, and check out the essex blog. I just put 30+ pics of BMW race cars running AP Racing brakes on our Facebook page. That should give you an idea of the company you'll be keeping if you purchase our kit. Here are a couple:
You can see a bunch of customer cars in our facebook photo gallery. Here are some closeups of the DTM calipers that the four cars pictured directly above are running...thought these might be of interest as well. We actually just put a set of these on a C6 Z06 with a fully built Katech engine. Last edited by jritt@essex; 12-19-2013 at 01:30 PM.. |
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AP Racing appreciation - brake, clutch, pedal box, air jack masters http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=731832
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12-20-2013, 12:56 PM | #34 |
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Do you have full floating J hook rotors available 368? I cant remember the size but think this is it. I have an older full floating AP kit (6 pot front/4 pot rear).
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12-22-2013, 06:32 AM | #35 |
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[/QUOTE]I'm not sure to which kit or rotor you are referring, as there are a number of kits on the market. Please give me the details on the specific kit to which you're referring, and I'll do what I can to help. None of the kits we sell use the strap-drive system. We use the same disc attachment method that we use in pro racing...float in disc, fewer hardware pieces, simple assembly. This setup allows for a good deal of float, and the spring clip helps with knockback and keeps it from rattling and making noise. Below are some pics. It's a proven system that has been raced a million miles and has scored heaps of victories and championships. [/QUOTE]
I have the only kit I though existed for the E92 M3 (APracing link below) The Calipers I have are part numbers; Front: CP5555M1050 or 1049 (I think same calipers?) Rear: CP6602-1001 So my earlier question was if these non-strap drive rotors would be compatible with my current APracing calipers for my 2008, E92 M3? http://www.apracing.com/product_deta...5555m1050.aspx |
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01-02-2014, 11:17 AM | #36 |
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Hi Guys,
Happy New Year. If you'd like me to check disc availability, the best way to do so is to give me the part number straight off of the disc. It's usually located on the outer edge. That's the surefire way for me to see what we can do for you. AP has loads of discs, many of which are variants of the same basic casting. To complicate things even further, some AP distributors don't even use AP Racing discs in the kits they sell. It's therefore difficult for us to know which specific product you need. Thanks. Jeff |
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The discs used in a strap drive setup would have a round hole through which the hardware is bolted. The discs in our system have an oblong hole in the iron disc as shown below. The hardware slides along that channel as the iron disc expands.
So in summary...if you're using a strap-drive system from one of the older AP Racing systems, you are going to have to stick with that setup for the foreseeable future. If you need spare iron discs, your best bet is to contact the company from whom you originally purchased your kit. If you want to move away from the strap drive setup towards the floating setup we use, your best bet would be to sell your current kit on the used market and start over fresh. Details on the disc/hat fixing system our Essex kits use: \ Hopefully that is helpful and makes sense! |
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Jeff, great to have you on the forum. I (and no doubt many others) have read your brake articles (they're stickies on this forum) and have learned a lot from them. So your reputation precedes you. Looking forward to your input on the forum. And no doubt I will be asking you brake and pad related questions often !
Welcome again, and the Essex bbk looks great! - esquire
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Well I gotta say I am really stoked about this kit. I have been thinking about downsizing my 380mm BBK to a 355mm setup to increase my 18" wheel options.
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Hi Gents,
Components to build our front kit are due to be finished in production this week. We'll need inspect/quality check, assemble, and package everything, but that means we're hoping to start shipping our front kits out next week! We have a generous customer who offered to let us use his car, so we're currently slated to fit check our revised rear components on 1/24/14. After we confirm the revised parts, it will be a few weeks until we start shipping the rear kits. Please note that it is perfectly fine to run our front-only system with the OEM rear brakes. The torque output of our front and rear kits very closely mimic the OEM brakes. If you're in need of brakes soon, that means you can run the front-only setup and add the rears when they're ready. For most people the fronts seem to be the big problem area, so no need to wait if you're looking for a front solution. I'll post updates as I have them. I'm putting together the page for our front BBK on our website. I should have that done within the next couple of days, and I'll post the link in this thread. Also, my engineers should have the wheel fitment template for our front kit done this week as well. That will allow those of you considering our kit to check your wheel clearance. Quote:
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I think people are going to be really excited when they see how lightweight our system is, particularly vs. something like a 380mm setup. We did the weights vs. stock, and our kit shaves over 10 lbs. off of each front corner, or 20 lbs. unsprung weight off the nose of the car! Here's how the weight works out by component on the front kit: Weights in lbs. OEM Caliper and bracket 13 lbs. Disc weight 22.5 lbs. Pad weight 2.3 lbs. Total corner brake components 37.8 lbs. Essex Competition Front Big Brake Kit Caliper and bracket 7.4 lbs. Disc weight 17.6 lbs. Pad weight 2.6 lbs. Total corner brake components 27.6 lbs. Unsprung weight savings per corner with front Essex /AP Racing Competition Kit= 10.2 lbs. Total unsprung weight savings from nose of car= 20.4 lbs. For an AutoX'r, it would be possibly worth doing the kit just for the weight savings alone, and the rest of the benefits would be gravy. To my knowledge, if you've already done lightweight wheels,tires, and suspension, there's really no other way to come close to shaving that much unsprung weight. Our Sprint big brake kit for the FT86 also saves 10 lbs. per corner, and some of our customers tell us they can actually feel a difference in how the car handles and steers after installing the kit. Actually, I don't know how easy it is to shave 20 lbs. off the nose of the car period after you've done some of the very basics. Many of the basic weight reduction mods tend to pull weight from the rear of the car (exhaust, trunk panels, rear seat removal, etc.). Anyway, I thought I'd share that weight data. It's pretty nuts when you hold the parts in your hands and feel the difference. The M3 front calipers in particular are like cinder blocks! |
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