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      10-22-2013, 11:54 PM   #375
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I just corded 4 NT01s...no splice.

To move into an R-comp...run group is irrelevant. Skill is. You need to be able to feel AND understand what the car is doing...car control. IMO, need to be comfortable with DSC off and sliding (not drift) the car.

With R comps, you'll be going a lot faster when something goes wrong.
I've run the NT01s with traction/stability on in my car. They have definitely taken a few seconds off my lap time.
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      10-23-2013, 06:09 PM   #376
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I just corded 4 NT01s...no splice.

To move into an R-comp...run group is irrelevant. Skill is. You need to be able to feel AND understand what the car is doing...car control. IMO, need to be comfortable with DSC off and sliding (not drift) the car.

With R comps, you'll be going a lot faster when something goes wrong.
who is this directed at? why are you on nto1s still?
In general.

I'm on NT01s because they are decent but inexpensive tires which hold up well. And I'm cheap. Really not trying to cut lap times by modding. Trying to fine tune some things and start to left foot brake.

Might even go back to street tires.
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I just corded 4 NT01s...no splice.

To move into an R-comp...run group is irrelevant. Skill is. You need to be able to feel AND understand what the car is doing...car control. IMO, need to be comfortable with DSC off and sliding (not drift) the car.

With R comps, you'll be going a lot faster when something goes wrong.
I've run the NT01s with traction/stability on in my car. They have definitely taken a few seconds off my lap time.
So you're going faster. So when you do take DSC off, you'll be going much faster which means you'll be going faster when you make a mistake. So there's more risk.
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So you're going faster. So when you do take DSC off, you'll be going much faster which means you'll be going faster when you make a mistake. So there's more risk.
The plan is to hit the ceiling on the lap time with the nannies on then turn them off and SLOW DOWN and slowly work my way back up to an even faster lap time. All I know is one key phrase....DO NOT LIFT or else....
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I would think it would be easier the other way. If you learn to reach the limit with nannies they are likely artificial and masking all sorts of little mistakes. Then you will have to relearn rather than ramping it up gradually with them off. I did the same thing initially. Drove my e90 for some time before I just decided to turn it all off, had to re-sort what I was doing and couldn't just hammer it out of corners and not worry. With my e46 never have used traction at all its useless and makes car undrivable anyway. You have a larger investment to protect but making catches yourself and really feeling the limit is very rewarding, even when coming up to full pace and learning.
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The plan is to hit the ceiling on the lap time with the nannies on then turn them off and SLOW DOWN and slowly work my way back up to an even faster lap time. All I know is one key phrase....DO NOT LIFT or else....
If you wait for an NT01 to make noise its too late. There's more to it than not lift. You have to be ahead of the car and precisely correct. Sometimes you need to lift to keep the car from going past 90 degrees if the car starts rotating quickly and you are behind. The key is being smooth on the controls. Moving up to a sticky tire like the NT01s will let you get away with murder whereas a street tire will let you know you are screwing up.

I see what 1MOREMOD described soooo many times. Guy's rely on the nannies. When the nannies come off and you're in a faster run group with the pressure on...its usually a recipe for something to happen. Oh...I went through the same thing.

A quick way to get used to having the nannies off is to do a drift practice. You'll learn car control really fast.

An example of just staying on the throttle...



An example of lifting when the car is starting to get away from you and bring it back the other way...

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Does anyone have opinions of the BFG's versus R888's?
i know of one member who couldnt stand the r888 but likes the r1. maybe he will chime in.
9 out of 10 hate the r888 Honesty I don't think they are suited for a car as heavy as the E92 M3. How many positive reviews have you seen for the r888 ........now how positive for the nt01? The NT01 is a much better choice. The BFG R1 would be a tire to consider once you have tried the nt01.
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A quick way to get used to having the nannies off is to do a drift practice. You'll learn car control really fast.
Where/when can one practice this?
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Where/when can one practice this?
Skid pad at the track.
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A quick way to get used to having the nannies off is to do a drift practice. You'll learn car control really fast.
Where/when can one practice this?
search for a local drifting event. Most will be a practice event. Some may have instructors.
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search for a local drifting event. Most will be a practice event. Some may have instructors.
NT01 or aggressive street tires are hard to drift, correct? take all seasons or something?
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search for a local drifting event. Most will be a practice event. Some may have instructors.
NT01 or aggressive street tires are hard to drift, correct? take all seasons or something?
You do want something decent. So a good street tire like an RS3 is good.

R comps wouldn't last very long.
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Naw, you can drift with pretty much any kinds of tires.
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Naw, you can drift with pretty much any kinds of tires.
Just costs more with proper tire.
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I practice with a set of old rims on the rear and no tires!
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That's some advanced stuff right there
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Make sure to use 20s or better. Don't want your bumper dragging in the rear like an 80s monte carlo hooptie.
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Slow down, trying to take notes here
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Or you can get in a high speed police chase and get your rears shot out, higher risk reward here for better focus.
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I practice with a set of old rims on the rear and no tires!
Sparks are way cooler than smoke.
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I practice with a set of old rims on the rear and no tires!
Sparks are way cooler than smoke.
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