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      10-16-2013, 02:16 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Upcoming BMW model pipeline - from F16 to G12 (B58 engine to succeed N55)

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This thread contains the information about future production plans compiled by me from various leaks within BMW organization.

The top post is now continuously updated: everything that becomes official is deleted, new research is added.

FAQ:
Can you tell me when these models are coming out?
- Not anymore.

Can you tell me which of these models will come to market, and which ones we'll never see?
- No.

What options will be available on these cars?
- I list everything that could be found on at least one model; for specific models, I provide the most interesting options known to be available on them.

Can you tell me where you found this info?
- No.

This is just the US market, EU is simply too varied to type in all combinations.

1/18/15
I have determined that I've been too optimistic in my ability to distinguish LCI in the constant stream of model updates. As a result, 2016 is no longer suggested to be the year when we will see LCI for F22, F32, F33, and F36. It is possible that this will be the timeframe for engine updates, with proper LCI happening later.


F15:
- X5 40e, xDrive, N20B20O0, auto - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153

F22 SOP 07/16, EOP 10/20 (this may or may not be the LCI):
- 230i B46B20O0 replaces 228i
- M240i B58B30M0 replaces M235i

F23 - same as F22, but with EOP 10/21.

F26 SOP 12/15 EOP 03/18:
- X4 M40i, N55B30T0, manual and auto

F30 LCI SOP 07/15 EOP 10/18:
- 320i, RWD and xDrive, N20B20M0 - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 328i, RWD and xDrive, N20B20O0 and N26B20O0, EOP 06/16 - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 330i, RWD and xDrive, B46B20O0, SOP 07/16 (replaces 328i)
- 340i, RWD and xDrive, B58B30M0 replaces 335i - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 328d, RWD and xDrive, N47D20O1 - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 328e (or possibly 330e) RWD, XB1141M0 SOP 11/15 replaces 335iH - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153

F31 - same as the corresponding F30 models, but with EOP 06/19.

F32 (not LCI, only new engines; LCI date unknown) EOP 06/20:
- 440i SOP 03/16
- 430i B46B20O0 SOP 07/16

F33 same as F32, but EOP 10/20:

F34 (likely LCI) SOP 07/16, EOP 03/20.
- 330i xDrive B46B20O0
- 340i xDrive B58B30M0

F36 same as F32, but EOP 02/21:

F45 SOP 03/15 EOP 02/18:
- 220i, FWD, B48B20M0, manual and auto
- 225i, xDrive, B46B20O0, manual and auto
- 223e SAT xDrive, manual and auto. There's a new engine code, XB2 1.49 M0. No idea what it is.

F47 (X2)
- X1 xDrive25i, B46B20O0
- X1 sDrive25i, B46B20O0

F48 SOP 07/15 EOP 06/22:
- X1 xDrive25i, B48B20O0 and B46B20O0 - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- X1 sDrive25i, B46B20O0 - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153

F52 (FWD 1-series sedan):
- 120i B46B20M0 FWD
- 125i B46B20O0 FWD and xDrive

F54 Cooper Clubman, B36A15M0 and B38A15M0, SOP 07/15 (FWD) or 03/16 (AWD), EOP 06/22
F54 Cooper S Clubman, B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, same SOP/EOP
F54 Cooper S Clubman Diesel (final model designation TBD), FWD, B47C20O0

F57 Cooper Cabrio, FWD, B36A15M0 and B38A15M0, SOP 11/15 EOP 10/22
F57 Cooper S Cabrio, FWD, B46A20M0 and B48A20M0, same SOP/EOP
F57 Cooper JCW Cabrio, B48A20O0, SOP 03/16 EOP 10/22

F60 Mini Countryman: Regular and S versions, FWD and AWD.

F80 LCI:
- M3 will be refreshed simultaneously with the regular 3 series. No major changes, likely to affect only some interior bits and headlights/taillights. - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153

F87 SOP 11/15:
- BMW M2, N55B30T0, manual and auto

G11:
- 750iX is the only potential short wheel base 7 series for the U.S.

G12:
- 750Li, RWD and xDrive, N63B44O2, auto - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 740Li, RWD, B58B30M0, auto - confirmed http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1082153
- 740Le RWD, auto, engine XB1 1.99 O0 - late intro (MY2017?)
- 735d, B57D30O0 engine, to be sold as 730d in ROW - late intro (MY2017?)
- 760i, N74B66U1, an updated version of the engine currently found in RR Ghost and Wraith. - late intro (MY2017?)

G30:
- 530i B46B20O0
- 540i B58B30M0
- 550i (possibly xDrive only)
- 540d B57 (possibly xDrive only)

EOPs for current models:

F01/02 - 06/15
F06 - 02/19
F07 - 06/17
F10 - 10/16
F12/13 - 10/18
F15 - 07/18 (to be replaced by LCI, not a completely new model)
F16 - 07/19
F25 - 07/17
F26 - 07/18
F80 - 10/18
F82 - 06/20
F83 - 10/20

M4 GTS (the fact that it exists is all I know.)

Option lists

G11/G12 7 series:
- LED lights standard with laser optional
- B&W audio
- Advanced parking assist
- Most optional wheel styles will be bi-color (I'm guessing similar to i cars?)
- Next gen drive assist
- Wifi hotspot
- i8 style display keyfob
- selective headlight beam (I'm sure everyone expected that)
- active steering still there for the clueless
- new climate related options: "heating comfort" and "ambient air" packages
- automatic parking with remote control
- touchscreen (confirming what was suggested by the recent spyshots)
- new drive assist is called "active comfort drive"
- gesture control (feel free to guess what this one might do)
- rear passenger oriented options will provide heated/massaged/ventilated lounge chairs and online entertainment
- wireless charging for phones

F30 options that are new for LCI:
- LED headlights and foglights
- Possible removal of Xenon as an option (if true, 328i would have to choose between halogen and LED)
- selective headlight beam
- BMW Individual is being considered for F30
- New touchscreen system from 7 series is unlikely at this time

General list of future options, not related to any specific model:

5AS BMW laser lights
2VS active comfort drive with camera
6U9 BMW touch command
5AV active guard
407 panorama glass roof "sky lounge"
6WD wifi hotspot
3DS BMW display key
3KA acoustic comfort windows
4HB heat comfort package, front
4HC heat comfort package
443 LED flashing warning light blue/yellow
4VC inductive charging
4VD preparation, inductive charging
4F5 executive lounge rear console
4FH climate comfort seats
6FR rear entertainment experience
5A1 side view assist
4HA seat heating, front and rear
5DM parking assistant (working name)
5DN parking assistant plus (working name)
5H1 range extender (working name)
6NP USA telephony
4F4 executive lounge seating
3CL welcome light carpet
6AG e-drive services
6U8 BMW gesture control
3CM leather engine cover

U.S. F48 X1 will have three lines: xLine, Sport Line, M Sport. Some of the available options:
- Active suspension
- Active cruise control
- LED headlights
- 17" wheels standard, 18" optional

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      10-17-2013, 12:23 PM   #2
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
It's not the same engine exactly. E70 X5M uses the O0 revision, F10 M5 uses T0, and F85/F86 will come with T2, so I would expect about 10hp/10lbs bump. This is in line with F15 using the same engines as E70, benefiting instead from lighter weight and improved drivetrain. And it's been the norm for a very long time now for BMW to use the same engine with minor variations in many different models.

No idea what kind of transmission will be there - the source doesn't specify that.
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What's the F45?
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      10-17-2013, 03:36 PM   #5
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What's the F45?
BMW Sport Active Tourer, the dreaded compact FWD car built on the new Mini platform.
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I've just found the September copy of the same data and edited the original post.

Added:
- F30 LCI
- F48 (new X1)
- F54
- G11/G12
- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
- F45 220i

And something close to the final confirmation that some US F31 and F34 RWD versions that existed in development are not making it to production (basically, whoever's been waiting for non-sedan RWD 3 series to come to the US - my advice is to give up).

F20 LCI (not listed here since it's EU only) and F30 LCI give us a good view into BMW's plans for the transition to B-series engines. It seems that, for a given displacement, the higher-output versions of the current engines will continue, while their lower-output versions will be replaced. So, for F30 LCI we'll have 320i with B48 and 335i with B58, but 328i will continue with N20/26. F20 M135i, having the higher output version of N55, will continue with it (just like N20 125i and N13 118i), while most other F20s will transition to B37/B38/B47. Based on G11/12, there's also no 8-cylinder engine in B-series lineup yet, so N63 is also staying.

F48 X1 is confirmed to be FWD (US is xDrive only, but EU will get FWD).

There's a whole new range of new production code designations for F06/12/13, I'm not clear what this is about yet.

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- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
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This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
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Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
I just saw that you in fact listed F36, not F32, which would mean the GC would get the N55 also according to your list.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Exactly why we bought the X1 over the F31. The current 3er is too large for our desires. A 2GC would go a long way towards making me want another BMW.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
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Interesting F30 LCI will be one of the first real tastes of the longitudinal applications for the new modular 0.5l cylinder engine design if the chart can be believed.

We bought an f34 instead of f31 for more space and the n55. Not surprising if the RWD option is being dropped, most people want to never think about breaking traction. Though it is possible to break traction in our xDrive f34, you have to try pretty hard
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
+1 BMW doesn't want the F31 to sell well. They want people buying the more profitable X3.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
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The interesting thing about 2014 is it is all about product, product that sells , product that is established and product that will appeal to new and existing customers.

Starting with the NAIAS will be the World Premiere of the BMW M3 and M4 Coupe and the BMW 2er Coupe.

For Geneva in March we will see the launch of the BMW 4er Gran Coupe and the first FWD BMW the 2er Active Tourer.

In April will be the joint World Premiere at the NYIAS and Leipzig show in Germany of the new BMW X4 and revised BMW X3.

Leipzig will also introduce another European model.

A new Concept car will be unveiled in April prior to the Beijing Auto show this years destination for the Auto China event.

The villa d'este will see an example of further design collaboration.

Making its premiere in one of its largest markets will be the all new BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe at the Moscow Auto show in August.

On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
What engine is the B58?
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What engine is the B58?
3.0L replacement for the N55.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
It's the same engine as the recently unveiled F56 Mini Cooper S, 189bhp/207lb-ft.
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On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?

is that 4erGC going to get an M treatment Scott?
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that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?
Two new M-models likely means F82 M4 Cabrio and F85 X5M.

X6M LCI came out last year.
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