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      10-16-2013, 03:16 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Upcoming BMW model pipeline - from F2x/F3x updates to G30 and G01/G02

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This thread contains the information about future production plans compiled by me from various leaks within BMW organization.

This top post is now continuously updated: everything that becomes official is deleted, new research is added.

FAQ:

Can you tell me when these models are coming out?
- Not anymore.

Can you tell me which of these models will come to market, and which ones we'll never see?
- No.

What options will be available on these cars?
- I list everything that could be found on at least one model; for specific models, I provide the most interesting options known to be available on them.

Can you tell me where you found this info?
- No.

These are just US market models, EU is simply too varied to type in all combinations.

F22/F23 (not the LCI, see August 2015 update below):
- 230i B46B20O0 replaces 228i SOP 07/16
- M240i B58B30M0 replaces M235i SOP 07/16

F30/F31
- 330i B46B20O0 replaces 328i SOP 07/15 (ROW, US SOP unknown)

F32/F33/F36 (not the LCI, LCI date unknown, tentatively in 2017 for MY2018):
- 430i B46B20O0 replaces 428i SOP 07/16 (ROW, US SOP unknown)
- 440i B58B30M0 replaces 435i SOP 03/16 (ROW, US SOP unknown)

F34 LCI
- 330i xDrive B46B20O0 replaces 328i SOP 07/16 (ROW, US SOP unknown)
- 340i xDrive B58B30M0 replaces 335i SOP 07/16 (ROW, US SOP unknown)

F39 (X2)
- X2 xDrive28i, B46B20O0

F52 (FWD 1-series sedan, China only for now):
- 120i B46B20M0 FWD
- 125i B46B20O0 FWD and xDrive

G30:
- 530i B46B20O0
- 540i B58B30M0
- 550i (possibly xDrive only)
- 540d B57 (possibly xDrive only)

EOP for current models:

F10 - 10/16
F07 - 06/17
F12 - 10/18
F13 - 10/18
F06 - 02/19

F25 - 07/17
F26 - 07/18

F15 - 07/18
F16 - 07/19

F30 - 10/18
F80 - 10/18
F31 - 06/19
F34 - 03/20
F32 - 06/20
F82 - 06/20
F33 - 10/20
F83 - 10/20
F36 - 02/21

F22 - 10/20
F23 - 10/21

F48 - 06/22

June 2015 Update (I hope this is big enough to make up for the long silence):

G01 X3 is being tested with a range of 4- and 6-cyl B engines, and both 30e and 40e PHEV setups.
G02 X4 is diesel and gas only, no hybrid at the moment.
G08 X3 LWB is planned for China.

G32 5GT will get the same engines as the other G3x models, including the hybrid.

The new generation of the Phantom, just like the Cullinan, will be built on the new 7-series platform.

There are some hints that B48 may get a version with 400cc per cylinder displacement. This makes as little sense to me as to y'all, considering all the noise about 500cc being the perfect size and the single parts bin for all B engines, but still there it is.

The PPK (M Performance Power Kit) for 340i/440i is in the works.

BMW is working on more driver assist features. In the future, the vehicle will inform the driver about the possibility of overtaking, the right of way, and pedestrians behind the vehicle.

August 2015 Update:

M140i / M240i (MY2017) will add ~15hp compared to the B58 output in non-M-performance cars, similar to what M135i offered above regular x35i models.

Apple CarPlay is definitely coming in 2016-2017.

OLED will find its way to production models, will be called "BMW Organic Light".

So, to clarify:

2016 M2 - not LCI
2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.

November 2015 Update:
I cleaned up the list above, removing the models that are officially official.

New info:
  • 740e and 760i are coming as MY2017, and M760i will be there either alongside 760i or as the only 12 cyl variant.
  • X2 is F39, not F47, and for now it's only xDrive28i for the U.S.
  • F34 LCI will be in 07/16 for MY2017.
  • F90 M5 (spy pics) is confirmed with the same engine as the current M5 (tweaks are possible of course) and xDrive only.
  • Wifi hotspot and wireless charging will be available for MY2017 in all 2/3/4 series cars.
  • MY2017 i3 (07/16 intro) will come with the 94Ah battery (the current one is 60Ah, so expect the new model to have 120 miles all-electric range; it is possible the 60Ah versions can be retrofitted with the new battery).
  • (So far unconfirmed, but the signals are strong) All UKL platform cars (both BMW and Mini) are going to get the dual clutch transmission some time in 2017.

Officially official last update for 2015:
  • G01 X3 is going to start sales with a sequence of 20(i,d), 30(i,d), and 40i engine designations. U.S. will obviously get 30i and 40i, but there's also a nice new addition: European 20d will be sold as U.S. 28d (same deal as F30 328d, but likely B47 will replace N47 under the hood).
  • M760Li adds 40hp over 760Li. Confusingly enough, M Sport package is currently an option for 760Li, so you could basically have both M760Li and regular 760Li looking virtually the same. I would guess BMW NA Marketing will fix this before the models' introduction.
  • 530e will have more power than 330e, by 30hp or so. It'll be a late intro model, you shouldn't expect it before 2017 calendar year. There'll be both RWD and xDrive versions.
  • M2 will have LCI alongside F22/F23 in 2017 (pretty much same deal as happened with F80).

February 2016 update:
  • F97 X3M (G01 based) and F98 X4M (G02 based) are coming.
  • i3, in addition to the bigger battery, will get another (sportier?) version called i3s
  • F82 M4 CS (Clubsport) is apparently a thing. No idea how it's gonna be different from the standard M4.
  • 760i (without the M) has been finally dropped.
  • US market G01 X3 diesel is now called xDrive30d instead of xDrive28d. Still could be no more than badge engineering.
  • I15 i8 Roadster is real.

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      10-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #2
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
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I'm surprised that they decided to use almost the same engine for the new x5m/x6m. Sad that bmw m can't make a new engine for every new body style anymore. Also by auto, does that mean dct or just a regular automatic or both? It seems like both but just want to be 100 percent.
It's not the same engine exactly. E70 X5M uses the O0 revision, F10 M5 uses T0, and F85/F86 will come with T2, so I would expect about 10hp/10lbs bump. This is in line with F15 using the same engines as E70, benefiting instead from lighter weight and improved drivetrain. And it's been the norm for a very long time now for BMW to use the same engine with minor variations in many different models.

No idea what kind of transmission will be there - the source doesn't specify that.
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What's the F45?
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      10-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #5
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What's the F45?
BMW Sport Active Tourer, the dreaded compact FWD car built on the new Mini platform.
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      10-19-2013, 10:40 PM   #6
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I've just found the September copy of the same data and edited the original post.

Added:
- F30 LCI
- F48 (new X1)
- F54
- G11/G12
- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
- F45 220i

And something close to the final confirmation that some US F31 and F34 RWD versions that existed in development are not making it to production (basically, whoever's been waiting for non-sedan RWD 3 series to come to the US - my advice is to give up).

F20 LCI (not listed here since it's EU only) and F30 LCI give us a good view into BMW's plans for the transition to B-series engines. It seems that, for a given displacement, the higher-output versions of the current engines will continue, while their lower-output versions will be replaced. So, for F30 LCI we'll have 320i with B48 and 335i with B58, but 328i will continue with N20/26. F20 M135i, having the higher output version of N55, will continue with it (just like N20 125i and N13 118i), while most other F20s will transition to B37/B38/B47. Based on G11/12, there's also no 8-cylinder engine in B-series lineup yet, so N63 is also staying.

F48 X1 is confirmed to be FWD (US is xDrive only, but EU will get FWD).

There's a whole new range of new production code designations for F06/12/13, I'm not clear what this is about yet.

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- F15 X5 28i engine (ridiculous, in my opinion)
This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
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This one is actually more interesting than I thought. It's the xDrive40E model. N20 motor with "40e" designation seems to suggest that the F15 will be a deeper hybrid with a larger electric motor than the existing ActiveHybrid models.

One more thing I only noticed just now: there's no model type reservation for US market F31 LCI RWD. This is the final nail in the coffin for our hopes to get a RWD wagon.
The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
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Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
I just saw that you in fact listed F36, not F32, which would mean the GC would get the N55 also according to your list.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
Should this make me happy? Shift of priorities from RWD wagons to FWD tall CUV? Is this a Toyota forum?

The current X1, on the other hand, is a brilliant car. Its only problem is it's much smaller on the inside than F31.
Exactly why we bought the X1 over the F31. The current 3er is too large for our desires. A 2GC would go a long way towards making me want another BMW.
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
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Interesting F30 LCI will be one of the first real tastes of the longitudinal applications for the new modular 0.5l cylinder engine design if the chart can be believed.

We bought an f34 instead of f31 for more space and the n55. Not surprising if the RWD option is being dropped, most people want to never think about breaking traction. Though it is possible to break traction in our xDrive f34, you have to try pretty hard
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The X1 is outselling the F31 by a considerable margin. The new X1 arrives around the same time as the LCI F31. Expect a shift in priorities.
And the X1 is RWD and cost approx $15k less, once optionned. What a surprise that it sells in larger volumes, its a bargain (or more precisely, the F31 is a robbery, that's why I don't currently own one). Now if the next X1 is FW, what makes it better than the CX5 or any random japanese thing with the "premium" package is not very clear. Meanwhile the F31 is expected to remain priced to not-sale.
+1 BMW doesn't want the F31 to sell well. They want people buying the more profitable X3.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
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The interesting thing about 2014 is it is all about product, product that sells , product that is established and product that will appeal to new and existing customers.

Starting with the NAIAS will be the World Premiere of the BMW M3 and M4 Coupe and the BMW 2er Coupe.

For Geneva in March we will see the launch of the BMW 4er Gran Coupe and the first FWD BMW the 2er Active Tourer.

In April will be the joint World Premiere at the NYIAS and Leipzig show in Germany of the new BMW X4 and revised BMW X3.

Leipzig will also introduce another European model.

A new Concept car will be unveiled in April prior to the Beijing Auto show this years destination for the Auto China event.

The villa d'este will see an example of further design collaboration.

Making its premiere in one of its largest markets will be the all new BMW X6 Sports Activity Coupe at the Moscow Auto show in August.

On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
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Ynguldyn, thanks for this interesting post.

Can you distinguish the 435GC according to the data? If yes, does it look like it will also get the N55 engine vs B58?
What engine is the B58?
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What engine is the B58?
3.0L replacement for the N55.
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B48 engine in the 320i? Will this be a ~200 hp engine? Do we know anything about the B-series engines yet?
It's the same engine as the recently unveiled F56 Mini Cooper S, 189bhp/207lb-ft.
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On the a Road to Paris the new 2er Cabrio will Premiere in the city of lights as will two new M models.
that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?

is that 4erGC going to get an M treatment Scott?
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that would be the X5M and the X6M LCI's, right?
Two new M-models likely means F82 M4 Cabrio and F85 X5M.

X6M LCI came out last year.
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