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      09-06-2013, 09:37 AM   #23
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no, the common +1 fitment (IMO only should be used on 9/10 inch wheels like zcp, not 220m) is 255/35 and 275/35. stock is 245/35 and 265/35
Gotcha. Thank you for the correction. I don't know why I had the 275/30 in my head.
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      09-06-2013, 03:03 PM   #24
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Congrats on the new buy

Do you intend to track the car?

Keep us updated on your impressions of the tire.
I have a track day at Roebling next month but I primarily chose the Yokohamas for their dry grip and look
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      09-06-2013, 03:07 PM   #25
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So I just came back from the alignment shop and they said my rear springs were at the highest setting and just took off the spacers front and back.

The car certainly doesn't look as aggressive now but I no longer rub in the front and rear.

So...
If you're running ZCP wheels, KW V3, and 255/35/19 275/35/19 you will rub with 12mm spacers up front and 10mm spacers in the back.
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      09-06-2013, 03:57 PM   #26
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Nice! You're supercharged?

I want to hear your opinion on the grip lvls. Im at 255/35 F and 295/30 R. I want to switch to 275/35 rear, but i'm worried i wont have enough grip out back with teh 585 kit.
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I wouldn't use the AD08R over the Michelins. Just my opinion though.
Agreed. If you are worried about hooking up on the street, PSS is probably a better bet. Tires like the AD08 and RS3 need heat before they grip.
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Just ordered a set of 4 of these to replace my regular AD08's. Will have them on next week in time for a road trip and track weekend at the glen next weekend. Really loved the AD08's and looking forward to my impressions of these
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I installed these exact tire and size about two weeks ago. I had the OEM Conti's and hated those bc they would not grip at my current hp/tq(basic bolt ons and tune) The ADO8R's are fantastic! Stiff sidewall and endless grip! As of yet no road noise whatsoever.. No track days yet but hopefully end of the month I'll b at willow
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no, the common +1 fitment (IMO only should be used on 9/10 inch wheels like zcp, not 220m) is 255/35 and 275/35. stock is 245/35 and 265/35
220m are of course 8.5" and 9.5". Fitting 255/35 to 8.5" and 275/35 to 9.5" wheels is a very common OEM fitment. For example, E46 ZHP and all E90 330i/335i rears are all 8.5" with 255/35. On my E39 M5, the rears are 9.5" with 275/35. A 9.5" with a 275/35 is a very common wheel/tire combo for other makes too.

In fact a 275/35 has a 9.5" wheel specified by the UST&A (tire industry standards body) as the standard wheel width for that size tire. Hence, it is not out of the question in any means running that size wheel/tire. I've had a 9.5/275 square setup on my M5 for 10 years now with excellent results, both street and track. For my track set, I've run NT-01, Hoosier A6, and BFG R1 all with fine results. From the rear of E39 M5s to the front of the C6 Z06, a 9.5 with a 275/35 has proven to be a perfect match for many years across many cars as an OEM fitment.

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UPDATE:

255/35/19 AD08r up front rubs at full lock. This issue just came up and think it's because my kW v3's finally settled. It's not really a huge deal but it's kind of embarrassing pulling in and out of a parking spot.

I would go with a 245/35/19 or a 265/30/19 if I did it again.

As for the grip, with the vt2-625 I have no desire for more grip. At first the grip was great but once the things broke in, the grip is PERFECT.

My track day may or may not be postponed due to me not knowing how to drive a slammed car. I just moved and loaded the car up on a uhaul trailer and ripped the bumper from the left fender along with the undercarriage
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255/35/19 AD08r up front rubs at full lock. This issue just came up and think it's because my kW v3's finally settled. It's not really a huge deal but it's kind of embarrassing pulling in and out of a parking spot.
Where is it rubbing at? Is this still with a spacer or none?
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Very nice. I was looking at these to replace my stock tires when they wear out. Will either go these or the Michelins PSS. Looking forward to seeing what you think.
Same boat as you! Currently have the Michelin's PSS. Was wondering if they A08' could save me some money, without sacrificing too much performance. I do personally not track my car so I do not need that extreme level of performance.
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Same boat as you! Currently have the Michelin's PSS. Was wondering if they A08' could save me some money, without sacrificing too much performance. I do personally not track my car so I do not need that extreme level of performance.
If you dont track, go with the PSS.
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      09-26-2013, 12:20 PM   #34
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Where is it rubbing at? Is this still with a spacer or none?
I'll post pics once I put it on jack stands to replace the undercarriage / change the vortech oil. The damage is exaggerated now that the clips busted and the fender liner rubbed against my tire on the interstate. The damage caused by the 255/35/19 isn't bad and I did not notice any damage to the tire.

The rubbing occurred with the 12mm spacer at higher speeds (getting on the interstate at a 90degree turn) but now only happens at parking lot speeds with the spacers removed.
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If you dont track, go with the PSS.
Thanks for the advice!
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      09-30-2013, 04:22 PM   #36
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I think it depends on priorities. The AD08R is focused on dry grip, and is more durable in a track situation. The PSS goes for more balance between wet and dry, and is primarily a street tire rather than straddling the line between street and track. Most people will have a clear preference based on use and driving conditions.
I'm on 295 pss right now and there not hooking up as much as I'd like I want something better I was thinking r888 but there not really good for everyday do u think I should get the AD08R?
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I think it depends on priorities. The AD08R is focused on dry grip, and is more durable in a track situation. The PSS goes for more balance between wet and dry, and is primarily a street tire rather than straddling the line between street and track. Most people will have a clear preference based on use and driving conditions.
I'm on 295 pss right now and there not hooking up as much as I'd like I want something better I was thinking r888 but there not really good for everyday do u think I should get the AD08R?
If you don't drive very often or don't mind replacing the tires often, then the Toyo's would be good for you.

The r888's seem to be very track centric but know of a highly modified cobra that uses them as a DD tire.

I'm not sure of how my 275 ad08r's compare to your wider 295 pss's but if you're having grip issues, I'd prob go with the Toyo's
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If you don't drive very often or don't mind replacing the tires often, then the Toyo's would be good for you.

The r888's seem to be very track centric but know of a highly modified cobra that uses them as a DD tire.

I'm not sure of how my 275 ad08r's compare to your wider 295 pss's but if you're having grip issues, I'd prob go with the Toyo's
You can get the ad08rs in 295 i think
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Pictures of the rubbing. It doesn't seem like it's going to cause any sort of failure but it is a bit annoying pulling into/out of a parking spot.
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If you dont track, go with the PSS.
This is good advice and I would recommend the same. If you are not tracking the vehicle, then PSS is the way to go. You can also consider the Bridgestone RE-11 tire as well. It is considered and extreme performance tire, however it is quieter and more livable than the NT05 from Nitto or the AD08R.

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Agreed. If you are worried about hooking up on the street, PSS is probably a better bet. Tires like the AD08 and RS3 need heat before they grip.
The Michelin PSS will not hookup better on the street in comparison to the AD08R in a straight line. Tires like the RE-11, NT-05 and AD08/AD08R are far superior for straight line traction than the PSS. The RS3 is a good tire for this purpose as well, as long the proper tire pressure is utilized. RS3's need to run lower air pressures to utilize their straight line capabilities.

For comparison sake, a 275/30/19 RE-11 or NT05 will have better grip than a 295/30/19 PSS tire will in a straight shot.
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