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      09-19-2013, 09:44 AM   #89
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One of the local master technicians met with the senior /// engineer from Germany. The word is that BMW acknowledges that there is bearing issue due to tight clearance. But BMW will assess each failure on a case-by-case basis and extend a goodwill warranty cover. The catch is that, the car must have an ongoing dealership service history, at least oil changes, to confirm factory spec oil and filter have been used each time. If this is the case, regardless of the miles or years, BMW will help owners out.

I've heard this from a very reliable third party. I am just putting it out there for information only. No flame please.

Also the same /// engineer was quoted saying, hang on to the ///3s with S65 engines because it's last of the /// cars with /// DNA and built at the /// centre (I don't know much about this one). All current and future /// cars including 3, 5 and 6 will be series builds along with other non-/// cars.
Somewhat reassuring. If BMW will goodwill possibly and stand behind this wonderful product I may indeed keep the car. This issue was the ONLY reason along with the allure of a Porsche that I would ever dream of parting with the car to begin with.
...and future classic? Just sayin'
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      09-19-2013, 03:11 PM   #90
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A conceptual question for those with more knowledge on this subject than me:

I live in Miami, FL and my car will always be located in the warm weather. From reading the discussion, the problem with clearance and oil coverage revolves around a cold start when the oil is cold. Due to the car being in warm weather all the time, should this be less of a risk or concern for me or is the ambient temperature not enough of a factor to influence the problem/results? Is there (should there be) any correlation between the two? Do we have a rough geographic idea for the locations of rod bearing failures?
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      09-19-2013, 05:48 PM   #91
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I hope this comes to light in the near future. I started a 5k oil interval service so taking it in every 3rd change to keep the record wouldn't be a terrible idea. Please, let us know if you end up hearing more information on this.
I am thinking of the same. In my case I should have only one oil change recorded with the dealer and should be coming up for the second soon. But I have three with the dealer and I have done three myself. But I have kept all the receipts for the filter and the TWS oil I bought through the dealer for proof of purchase of genuine BMW parts.

My biggest dilemma is whether I should open up the engine or leave it. In all probability and for my bad luck I might have perfect bearings and end up losing $3200 or bearings will be shit and then hope BMW covers it, and then along with that comes an extended warranty for the engine, which is not a bad idea.
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      09-19-2013, 07:06 PM   #92
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I am thinking of the same. In my case I should have only one oil change recorded with the dealer and should be coming up for the second soon. But I have three with the dealer and I have done three myself. But I have kept all the receipts for the filter and the TWS oil I bought through the dealer for proof of purchase of genuine BMW parts.

My biggest dilemma is whether I should open up the engine or leave it. In all probability and for my bad luck I might have perfect bearings and end up losing $3200 or bearings will be shit and then hope BMW covers it, and then along with that comes an extended warranty for the engine, which is not a bad idea.
The $3200 isn't worth it to me, labor to do a full motor would be around 8k
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how many miles?
64.5K

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One of the local master technicians met with the senior /// engineer from Germany. The word is that BMW acknowledges that there is bearing issue due to tight clearance. But BMW will assess each failure on a case-by-case basis and extend a goodwill warranty cover. The catch is that, the car must have an ongoing dealership service history, at least oil changes, to confirm factory spec oil and filter have been used each time. If this is the case, regardless of the miles or years, BMW will help owners out.

I've heard this from a very reliable third party. I am just putting it out there for information only. No flame please.

Also the same /// engineer was quoted saying, hang on to the ///3s with S65 engines because it's last of the /// cars with /// DNA and built at the /// centre (I don't know much about this one). All current and future /// cars including 3, 5 and 6 will be series builds along with other non-/// cars.
Sounds like your dealer wants you service with them for the life of the vehicle!

I have done my own changes. One change I bought the oil from someone who sold his car so I have no way to prove it.
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I am thinking of the same. In my case I should have only one oil change recorded with the dealer and should be coming up for the second soon. But I have three with the dealer and I have done three myself. But I have kept all the receipts for the filter and the TWS oil I bought through the dealer for proof of purchase of genuine BMW parts.

My biggest dilemma is whether I should open up the engine or leave it. In all probability and for my bad luck I might have perfect bearings and end up losing $3200 or bearings will be shit and then hope BMW covers it, and then along with that comes an extended warranty for the engine, which is not a bad idea.
Don't worry nobody has opened up the bottom end and said the bearings looked great. If you have 50,000 miles or more you should consider the job. 3200 is very expensive for this job, at a local Indy you should be looking at 2000.00.
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