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      08-20-2013, 07:33 AM   #1
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ATE Super Blue Banned in US?

Does anyone have more information on this? Is this a joke? I have heard nothing but good things about this fluid. I am not a user of this fluid but I figured I would get the word out for the people who do.

http://hooniverse.kinja.com/braking-...989/1154188522

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      08-20-2013, 07:58 AM   #2
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Does anyone have more information on this? Is this a joke? I have heard nothing but good things about this fluid. I am not a user of this fluid but I figured I would get the word out for the people who do.

http://hooniverse.kinja.com/braking-...989/1154188522
Really highlights the amazing level of stupidity that is rampant in creating federal government regulations.

I wonder which lobby pushed for that one? Probably the we-make-amber-and-clear-brake-fluid, co.


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      08-20-2013, 09:04 AM   #3
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One would think that all they have to do is slap one of those "For off road use only" stickers but banning it is a little much. Maybe the feds got involved with the bpm scandal.
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      08-20-2013, 09:06 AM   #4
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i have a couple liters in the garage and it already says not for use on public roads. i run it in my x5 and switch between the blue and gold 200 in my e46 right now.
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      08-20-2013, 11:47 AM   #5
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I think the ATE amber fluid is the same as the blue, just without the blue coloring. My understanding is that the blue color was intended to make it easier to know when you've flushed your brakes after running an amber colored fluid (i.e., switch back and forth between blue and amber), but that both Type 200 and Super Blue are otherwise the same. I guess they can come out with a clear fluid now and call it Super Clear or something like that.
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      08-20-2013, 11:55 AM   #6
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This was posted on TTAC last week. Seems as though the blue color goes against federal fluid coloring specs (amber for brake fluid) - someone might mistake it for transmission oil and put it in their gearbox.

The US Government has gone too far this time

And the rebuttal

Keep colored fluid choices
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      08-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #7
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This was posted on TTAC last week. Seems as though the blue color goes against federal fluid coloring specs (amber for brake fluid) - someone might mistake it for transmission oil and put it in their gearbox.

The US Government has gone too far this time

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Keep colored fluid choices
yeah! lets protect us from ourselves. i wear a helmet when i walk around town just in case. i got stagger too.
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      08-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #8
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I have Project Mu brake fluid... which is a greenish-clear color. It turns clear when the fluid overheats so you know when to change the fluid after a track day.

I wonder if they'll ban that too?
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      08-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #9
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i have some i can sell for 100 bucks a liter! hope this doesnt mean its unavailable completely, but guess a switch isnt that big of an issue.
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      08-20-2013, 12:54 PM   #10
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i have some i can sell for 100 bucks a liter! hope this doesnt mean its unavailable completely, but guess a switch isnt that big of an issue.
No different than ATE Gold, other than dye color.

We have a couple of containers left on the shelf if anyone needs it that badly.
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      08-20-2013, 12:59 PM   #11
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No different than ATE Gold, other than dye color.

We have a couple of containers left on the shelf if anyone needs it that badly.
yep i realize just like the visual color change when doing a flush.
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      08-20-2013, 02:01 PM   #12
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I agree. I've used the alternating colors of blue and gold to help with flushes for quite some time now. A bit annoying if it's NLA.

I suppose, if it's really gone, we could always add some blue food coloring to some Typ200 (or another clearish fluid, for that matter). As long as the food coloring wouldn't cause any issues? Honestly, I can't imagine it would.
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      08-20-2013, 02:09 PM   #13
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Except lower the boiling point?
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Really? The feds is banning this? Are they running out of things to ban and regulate that they need to come up with stupid things to ban for their own job security?

Is their some sort of mechanics/ dealership union involved to make diy changes harder to do so that the owner just goes and pays for service?

This reminds me of how i had to buy a simple part for my AC unit at home. A simple $10 part that takes minutes to replace. What i found out was that the HVAC union made it so that you can only buy it at specialized stores and you need to show proof that you work in the industry. Which meant it would be a $150 to $200 service call to replace the stupid $10 part. I was able to buy it by paying off a technician outside of one of those stores that sell these parts because the store wouldn't sell to me!!!

I dont trust indy mechanics anymore. Found out a local indy mechanic changed my M3's oil with liquomoly 10w60 after requesting Castrol TWS 10w60 and they even claimed castrol in the receipt (confirmed after i changed the oil myself with a blackstone oil analysis). Then when I took my wife's VW CC for its dealer scheduled 30,000 mile maintenance at a local vw dealer, i found that they claimed they flushed my brake fluid and charged it to VW of America. I knew the dealership lied about it because a month earlier I flushed her cars fluid myself with ATE Blue. I asked the service advisor what color the fluid is supposed to be and he said amber. He apologized and offered to change the fluid but i didn't want to go back to their oe fluid.

Going diy is easier because i can do simple things on my own time, I'm not stuck with a mechanics work schedule and client schedule, and i feel confident that the fluids are changed.

Doing things like banning ATE blue is just stupid and makes it a little harder to diy... Not a big deal but its the principle behind it.
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It will come back on the market after some rebranding. It technically can't be labelled as DOT 4 compliant if it is a non-standard color. It will end up re-marketed as an "Off-road use only" product.
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See I had no idea that they colored it blue for easy flushing. Good to know!
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It will come back on the market after some rebranding. It technically can't be labelled as DOT 4 compliant if it is a non-standard color. It will end up re-marketed as an "Off-road use only" product.
Police: Excuse me sir, can you pop your hood so I can check your brake fluid color?

Ha, that will be the day!
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Police: Excuse me sir, can you pop your hood so I can check your brake fluid color?

Ha, that will be the day!
well if your a douche bmw driver they may try!
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yeah! lets protect us from ourselves. i wear a helmet when i walk around town just in case. i got stagger too.
I wear a helmet when i swim in the ocean.



no my pecs aren't of 1moremod status...maybe i need to change name to 1moreset.
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