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      09-20-2007, 07:43 AM   #1
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M3 testdrive - My personal review

Today I got an M3 from BMW Switzerland for a one hour testdrive :-)

spec: 19", no EDC

Here my thoughts:

general:
Very comfortable, very easy to drive, very fast, no major disappointments

engine:
Awsome sound (volume inside is ok; not muted as some other reviews said), acceleration: <3500rpm ok, >3500 all hell breaks loose. Actually it behaves like a turbo engine (real boost at 3500), which was quite unexpected. Overall: could get the "engine of the year" award.

suspension/handling:
The standard suspension (no EDC) is comfortable but is at the same time stiff enough go fast around corners. The steering is ok. I will still get EDC.

gearbox:
My opinion has been confirmed: The 6MT tranny is rubbish. Just forget quick shifts.



NEWS:

In Geneva (March 08) BMW will introduce the M3 convertible together with M-DCT. Available late spring.
(This info is from a BMW-CH guy who will go to Geneva to present this stuff)
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      09-20-2007, 07:54 AM   #2
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Probably the first drive with no EDC... will be interesting to hear other reviews...

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      09-20-2007, 08:34 AM   #3
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It will be really interesting to hear from people who have driven both EDC and non-EDC setups.
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      09-20-2007, 08:38 AM   #4
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suspension/handling:
The standard suspension (no EDC) is comfortable but is at the same time stiff enough go fast around corners. The steering is ok. I will still get EDC.
How is the standard suspension compared to an E46 m3 (if you have experience there)?

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In Geneva (March 08) BMW will introduce the M3 convertible together with M-DCT. Available late spring.
(This info is from a BMW-CH guy who will go to Geneva to present this stuff)
I hope that isn't true since I really wanted to see the convertible in Detroit. Also, other rumors point to M-DCT debuting in Detroit or LA with the M3 sedan. But maybe your guy was only talking about the European debut?
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      09-20-2007, 08:44 AM   #5
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How is the standard suspension compared to an E46 m3 (if you have experience there)?
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I hope that isn't true since I really wanted to see the convertible in Detroit. Also, other rumors point to M-DCT debuting in Detroit or LA with the M3 sedan. But maybe your guy was only talking about the European debut?
He only said conv and DCT will be there for sure; this doesn't rule out an earlier debut of e.g. DCT (although I personally doubt that).
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      09-20-2007, 11:18 AM   #6
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My opinion has been confirmed: The 6MT tranny is rubbish. Just forget quick shifts.
Short shifter will fix this.
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      09-20-2007, 02:56 PM   #7
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[quote=swiss_cornholio;1428072]My opinion has been confirmed: The 6MT tranny is rubbish. Just forget quick shifts.


Sorry for this but I couldn't disagree more. It does take a little time, maybe half a day, but once you learn the timing the shifts are short and quick; in some ways more satisfying than my 911 (996) T; sold in July so no direct comparison.
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Sorry for this but I couldn't disagree more. It does take a little time, maybe half a day, but once you learn the timing the shifts are short and quick; in some ways more satisfying than my 911 (996) T; sold in July so no direct comparison.
I'm not going to throw any superlatives around, since I have not yet driven the car, but after sitting in it, the travel in the clutch pedal (which feels extremely light, by the way) is long and so is the throw of the lever. With your eyes closed you frankly would not believe you were in an M3. It really doesn't feel sporty.
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      09-20-2007, 04:54 PM   #9
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I'm not going to throw any superlatives around, since I have not yet driven the car, but after sitting in it, the travel in the clutch pedal (which feels extremely light, by the way) is long and so is the throw of the lever. With your eyes closed you frankly would not believe you were in an M3. It really doesn't feel sporty.
Exactly what I was talking about!

I compare it with my Z4: They would rather have taken that gearbox/clutch and put an M batch on the stick!
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Today I got an M3 from BMW Switzerland for a one hour testdrive :-)

spec: 19", no EDC

Here my thoughts:

general:
Very comfortable, very easy to drive, very fast, no major disappointments

engine:
Awsome sound (volume inside is ok; not muted as some other reviews said), acceleration: <3500rpm ok, >3500 all hell breaks loose. Actually it behaves like a turbo engine (real boost at 3500), which was quite unexpected. Overall: could get the "engine of the year" award.

suspension/handling:
The standard suspension (no EDC) is comfortable but is at the same time stiff enough go fast around corners. The steering is ok. I will still get EDC.

gearbox:
My opinion has been confirmed: The 6MT tranny is rubbish. Just forget quick shifts.



NEWS:

In Geneva (March 08) BMW will introduce the M3 convertible together with M-DCT. Available late spring.
(This info is from a BMW-CH guy who will go to Geneva to present this stuff)
sweet! sounds like another winner, i'm sure once M-DCT is introduced, it'll turn the new M3 into a whole new different beast! just remember my words

i'll be waiting for the M-DCT version anyways. screw 6 speed tranny, it's like dessert, DCT is where it's at!
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      09-20-2007, 05:35 PM   #11
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Call me old school, but there's nothing like shifting through the gears and mastering your car's manual transmission. It makes me feel more involved I guess...
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      09-20-2007, 06:21 PM   #12
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Call me old school, but there's nothing like shifting through the gears and mastering your car's manual transmission. It makes me feel more involved I guess...
i totally understand your point and agree with it, i owned 2 M3s(E36/E46) for 10 years(7 years/3 years respectively) and both were manual and i loved them, but when i bought my E60 M5(sold the M3s) i took the plunge and got it in SMG knowing i would love it, and i'm glad i did, easy shifting, perfect shifts and smoother, i know manual is more involving, and i do miss it, but not to the point of owning it again, but unfortunately i grew tired of manual, and wanted a clutchless manual, so i opted for SMG and i'm extremely happy with it.

nonetheless, i totally see where you're coming from.
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      09-21-2007, 02:23 PM   #13
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Call me old school, but there's nothing like shifting through the gears and mastering your car's manual transmission. It makes me feel more involved I guess...
So, how's the S2000 coming along?
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I am probably a younger M3 driver and very much into new techlonogy, love gadgets etc but I too am old school when it comes to transmissions.

Nothing better than heel toeing into a nice bend and smoothly shifting up out of the turn
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