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      07-03-2013, 04:11 PM   #331
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      07-03-2013, 10:47 PM   #332
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      07-03-2013, 10:58 PM   #333
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I always hear the low torque argument but it was not the design or purpose of this engine. You cannot have both in naturally aspirated form. You can't have a low end grunty torque engine that revs to 8400 rpms and makes top end power up until 8300.

Its one thing if many other engines made big torque and offered high rpm power but as mentioned it simply is not possible or very difficult. The purpose of the m3 and the s65 was high revving power which ANYONE who has tracked this car will appreciate how great 3rd gear is to have 8400 rpms to play with and have a 2k band of power to have control of at the peak powerband. IT works flawlessly. This was what it was designed for.

Its a weak low-end torque motor so if you prefer that type of motor and you own an m3 than it seems more of a wrong choice rather than a flaw in the m3 s65 engine which fulfills its purpose beautifullly
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      07-04-2013, 12:46 AM   #334
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I always hear the low torque argument but it was not the design or purpose of this engine. You cannot have both in naturally aspirated form. You can't have a low end grunty torque engine that revs to 8400 rpms and makes top end power up until 8300.

Its one thing if many other engines made big torque and offered high rpm power but as mentioned it simply is not possible or very difficult. The purpose of the m3 and the s65 was high revving power which ANYONE who has tracked this car will appreciate how great 3rd gear is to have 8400 rpms to play with and have a 2k band of power to have control of at the peak powerband. IT works flawlessly. This was what it was designed for.

Its a weak low-end torque motor so if you prefer that type of motor and you own an m3 than it seems more of a wrong choice rather than a flaw in the m3 s65 engine which fulfills its purpose beautifullly
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      07-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #335
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I always hear the low torque argument but it was not the design or purpose of this engine. You cannot have both in naturally aspirated form. You can't have a low end grunty torque engine that revs to 8400 rpms and makes top end power up until 8300.

Its one thing if many other engines made big torque and offered high rpm power but as mentioned it simply is not possible or very difficult. The purpose of the m3 and the s65 was high revving power which ANYONE who has tracked this car will appreciate how great 3rd gear is to have 8400 rpms to play with and have a 2k band of power to have control of at the peak powerband. IT works flawlessly. This was what it was designed for.

Its a weak low-end torque motor so if you prefer that type of motor and you own an m3 than it seems more of a wrong choice rather than a flaw in the m3 s65 engine which fulfills its purpose beautifullly
Amen to that ^^^^^^^
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      07-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #336
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I think soon we all become like this v v v
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      07-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #339
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This thread has become a Major Disappointment and im T'ed off.
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      07-06-2013, 04:47 PM   #343
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+1 seriously... Numbers, pricing, videos... Something
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      07-07-2013, 02:17 AM   #344
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      07-07-2013, 04:30 AM   #345
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Damn still nothing yet!?!?!?
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      07-07-2013, 11:15 AM   #346
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      07-07-2013, 11:19 AM   #347
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daaaaamn. makes a serious argument for getting the (imo) prettier e9X over the new m3/4. both can run twin turbos. Very interested in this, though I like the NA so much
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      07-07-2013, 01:38 PM   #348
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      07-07-2013, 04:47 PM   #349
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This is what BMW should have done with the new M4/M3.
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      07-08-2013, 04:00 PM   #351
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Here's some ballpark pricing, we are expecting the kit to be anywhere from $15,000 - $18,000. We are expecting our first casted production manifold to be done this week. Thank you for your patience. We are not trying to pull anybody's chain, by any means. I hope you can understand that this is not a one off kit and will be a full production kit.
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Here's some ballpark pricing, we are expecting the kit to be anywhere from $15,000 - $18,000. We are expecting our first casted production manifold to be done this week. Thank you for your patience. We are not trying to pull anybody's chain, by any means. I hope you can understand that this is not a one off kit and will be a full production kit.


annndddd that's where you lost me. 18k.. I understand fully what goes into this and this is approaching the price of a built motor; just doesn't make sense. I have bought a few exhausts from Gintani and love them (semantics as I know FI builds em, but still great pieces); but 18k to run low boost on a high compression motor just doesn't make sense, at least to me

But good luck, but I don't see how this @ 18k will be a "production" piece when 08 e90 are now 30k
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