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The wizard being OP? So if i'm understanding correctly, he's getting covered through warranty? That's kinda BS if you ask me, if you can afford to mod the car... you should be able to pay for the repairs. Not bitch out. |
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Sorry for any confusion but i was only making a joke. Hopefully everything works out ok for the OP
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Nothing, but acknowledgment would actually increase credibility in my eyes.
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If the OP was the wizard, He probably would've magically fixed his engine already. |
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I recall once a number of years ago, when I was involved in a civil legal issue. My attorney cautioned me about the potential economic costs of my actions with regards to his own legal fees, and how they may escalate. I appreciated his transparency on this issue.
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+1...especially the "idiot" part... ESS has no responsibility here...
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If the iDrive in my car stops working I'm I too blame a tuner? No right because the problem is not related... If someone were to supercharge their car and within say 500 miles have engine failure than I'd be on board with blaming said company. Now if after 60k blown miles an issue does surface well that's wear and no one is to blame.
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No, but this is a stretch of reasoning. SC damage to a motor is not. The actual top speed of a supercharged car is probably still within the specs for Z rated tires anyway, so it doesn't matter. However, if you needed a new upgraded clutch, for instance, I would hope that the SC manufacturer would at least advise of this.
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I agree with all the above statements saying that the supercharger company is not the one to blame in this scenario. It is unfortunate that the engine suffered a catastrophic failure and undeniably the supercharger most likely lead to its demise earlier than it would have if it was left naturally aspirated. However I still feel it is the owners due diligence to monitor the engines health regardless of how well engineered the supercharger kit is. For example on all my previous cars that I have added any sort of aftermarket forced induction I always made sure that I had a fuel pressure gauge, wideband o2 sensor, and an air/fuel monitoring gauge just to keep tabs on the engine and even then I proactively check my spark plugs to make sure that the engine was not running lean
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I agree. If all cars modified with their product failed or a significant number failed, then it would point to a design flaw with the SC and the manufacturer would be liable. If it was just a small number that failed, then failures would be attributed to a manufacturing defect in the particular car, or the drivers driving style or some other facter more than just the installation of the SC.
Most people who say that once you are start modifying a car significantly from how it was designed by the manufacturer, your reliability will almost guaranted to be worse and you are putting yourself at risk of a failure like this and simply by making the decision to do this type of modification you are assuming the risk. If people don't think about these risk or take them seriously, that is not the SC manufacturers fault. Last edited by dmppdx; 06-10-2013 at 12:36 PM.. |
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I can tell you do not do any heavy mods. You will learn if you ever do, its very rare to have company warranty engines. Unless its a very big company like Hennessy. Modding is always risky! and the only real warranty is with BMW !
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I'm sorry but its not "most likely" its just a guess...the rod bearing could just as easily have lasted the entire life of engine had it been unmodified.
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.....if you only knew!!! Where did I ever say they need to warranty the engine? What I said was that they altered the content of a kit for concerns over reliability. As such, should they make good to the people who may have suffered a loss without this alteration?
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It is good you went to a knowlegable tech to have your kit(s) installed but what I do not care for is that most(from what I have seen) advertise there kits to be able to be installed in your driveway or garage at home. DIY kits. DO NOT AGREE for the most part. If a company truly should be held liable for any reason then the kit should be installed be a supporting dealer.
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