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[accely]

hi everyone, new to the forums (first post). I recently got in a '12 M3 fully loaded on the 19'' comp pkg rims/tires.
I've driven RWD sports cars in the snow before with 19" blizzaks and it's amazing so I want to do the same with my M3.

Since it's spring/summer I got a great deal on some blizzaks through tireracks closeout special.. I got the same size rear tires 265/35-19 so I'm OK there.
For the front tires the closest they come is 245/40-19. So we are looking at 5% thicker profile, I think that comes out to 24mm thicker (top and bottom) (24mm= .94 inches) so we are talking a little less than 1 inch added to the profile or .5 inch all around

Will this difference be ok? Should I reconsider? Is a dealer going to care when I take them to be mounted next winter?
How about performance issues? Hoping the difference is small enough I really don't need to worry. In theory, once that added 5% wears down, it would be no different than a 245/35-19 at that point (tread depth may differ slightly, but overall diameter would not)

I'm not going to run 18's or different rims.

thanks!!

Dan

[abrahambeckers]

In a car winter tire is high quality, exact fitments and all wheels manufactured using strict quality control standards. In a winter car easy bolt on installation and it is already mounted and balanced.It is the best tire in you car.

[TommyLights]

I just picked up a set of 235/40/18 and 265/40/18's for my set of oem 219's. I'm slammed, am I ok?

[memorom]

Hi Everyone,

I just picked up a 2009 E93, Black Saphire, 6speed MT, M Sport. I found some Style 67 M3 wheels that are fresh from NuBrite, never mounted. They are staggered 19x8 and 19x9.5. The stock M rims are mounted with 225/30/19 rear and 225/35/19 fronts.

I am looking at a great deal on some Blizzaks, but all four are 255/35/19. Will these fit without rubbing on the front? Will it cause me any problems all being the same size with the staggered rims? Any potential issue with rubbing? Would I need spacers? Will this size mess with my speedo or odometer?

Do I steer clear of these because of potential issues or do I go for it? The tires are basically brand new and I can pick them up for $400 so I'd really like to grab them.

I'll also need TPMS and mounting and balancing. Where the best place to get this done in Greater Vancouver where they will respect my newly finished and polished rims?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Steve

[memorom]

I just spoke to BMW and they said I couldn't use the 255's up front as they would rub, as suspected. But the sie is perfect for the backs. So I need to find 225/40/19's for up front for this set up.

Anyone got a pair of Blizzak LM60's 225/40/19's that they want to sell? Still waiting to hear back if the guy will only sell 2 of his 4.

Oh, and they also recommended not running 19's for winter. They suggested narrower and only up to 18's. Anyone else heard this recommendation or have any concerns with running 19's?

Steve

[slicer]

Originally Posted by memorom

I just spoke to BMW and they said I couldn't use the 255's up front as they would rub, as suspected. But the sie is perfect for the backs. So I need to find 225/40/19's for up front for this set up.

Anyone got a pair of Blizzak LM60's 225/40/19's that they want to sell? Still waiting to hear back if the guy will only sell 2 of his 4.

Oh, and they also recommended not running 19's for winter. They suggested narrower and only up to 18's. Anyone else heard this recommendation or have any concerns with running 19's?

Steve

I recommend buying OEM 18" M3 wheels and installing either OEM sized snows (245/40/18 & 265/40/18) or go down one size (235/40/18 & 255/40/18). The OEM sizes will look the best but the down size will work a little better. Narrower is better in the snow. A taller sidewall is not required but it does provide better performance in the winter plus more pothole and general road damage forgiveness. The ultimate in winter performance is the narrowest and smallest wheels / tires. When I used to live in MN, I personally didn't want to drive around on tiny wheels / tires. I instead ran OEM 18's with OEM sized snows.

If you must run 19's then you can use 255/35/19 in the front and rear. Just do a search; tons of people run 255/35/19's in the front. It's a very common size around here. Keep in mind that fitment does depend on the correct wheel offsets. Also keep in mind that narrower is better. Why are you considering Style 67 wheels? Those are e46 M3 wheels which are far from ideal for an e93. I would pass on those wheels as the offsets and sizes are not a good match. The best value is OEM 18" M3 wheels designed for your car. Tons of members are constantly selling them in the wheel and tire, for-sale section.

[memorom]

Thanks slicer. That's all very good information, much appreciated. The reason I picked up the wheels was I got a great deal on them, at unfortunately did not do enough research before picking them up. They have been freshly machine and have never been mounted and thought I was fortunate to have found them. Finding perfect used M rims 20 minutes from my house for a great deal was hard to pass up. He spent more on re-finishing them then i spent for the set.

I think I'll post them in here and see what happens. For reference, what do you think I would need to spend for M style rims for my car in 18's? I literally just bought the car yesterday, and wanted to make sure that my complete investment was covered, i.e. getting snows right away while I am in spending mode. Obviously not wanting to spend money 4-6 months later to get winters. I have to drive the car 45 minutes each day to and from work and need to deal with icy conditions. We get almost no snow here so I am not that worried about depth.

I am curious regarding your comment on the 255's up front. BMW was pretty adament that it would not work. I will search the forum as you suggest, but if you have some references where people are doing it with no problem that would be really helpful.

Thanks again.

Steve

[lsal]

Ben - how do I get in touch with you? PM is blocked...

[bwiele]

I have a set of wheels that look the same as the ones in the very first post of this thread. I bought them from TireRack for my M5 and used them for a couple winters. I sold the M5, never got around to selling the winter wheel set up. Now I have a 2011 M3 and I'm wondering if they might fit? I'm pretty sure all 4 tires are the same size: 255/45 R18. I saw a post that the 19s in 255 width might rub in the front. Might these work since they are 18s?

[happos2]

The 19s were 255/45-19?

To your point...stock size tires are 245/35-19 which has an overal diameter of 25.752. In your case, you will be running 255/45-18 which as an overal diameter of 27.035. That is quite a difference.

Non-winter tires, people run 255/35-19 which has a diameter of 26.028. Anything bigger it starts to depend on offsets of the wheels which might be your case as well.

I am not a tire person, just thinking out loud. I used this as my tire calculator for estimates:

http://www.csgnetwork.com/tiresizescalc.html

[bwiele]

Very helpful information - thank you. I may just take the practical approach and take out a tape measure and measure the diameter of the tires on the car and the winter tires and see what the *actual* diameter difference is and then decide from there. Thank you!

[03///m3]

Are the Sport Edition A7's hubcentric - do not require hub rings?
Also does Rial make an 18" wheel that will fit the M3? I want to order a set through Tirerack as i like there service and the fact that the tires are mounted and balanced however i really don't like the Sport Edition wheels

[Rewted]

Which Brand/model tire is best suited for Canadian cold climate (Possible -25C), with snow and ice?

[lsal]

Ben - can't PM you... Wanted to connect re winter set. Tnx.

[JTO24]

Hey guys I have a pair of blizzaks lm-60 in 225/40r18 from my old 335. Would they work on the fronts of the oem 219m rims (8.5" width) they fit on my 335i rear rims and they were 8.5" wide but will the 225/40s be too small in overall diameter to work on the e92 m3? It's a shame if not since they're barely used.

[AKG M3]

Alright, just read all 21 pages of this thread and there is a wealth of information

This is my conclusion for my winter set:

Wheels

• Avant Garde BMW Type M359 ZCP Style 18 inch Wheels (Matte black )
• Front: 18x8.5 ET15 (23.5 lbs)
• Rear: 18x9.5 ET22 (25.5 lbs)

Tires

• Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D
• Front: 235/40R18
• Rear: 255/40R18

A few questions to confirm this should be kosher

1. For Canadian M3s what is the process regarding TPMS? Do I have to buy a kit? I read somewhere on here that there is a difference between American and Canadian vehicles when it comes down to the TPMS.
2. For the rear, a 255 tire on a 9.5 rim should be fine, right?
3. This setup should be up to OEM BMW standards and not mess up speedo, aspect ratios, etc

Any input would be greatly appreciated and if there are any pics of this winter setup, well, needless to say, I would love to see it

EDIT: just want to ensure this setup will work since I want to place my order for the tires ASAP on TireRack before they run out of stock...

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by AKG M3

Alright, just read all 21 pages of this thread and there is a wealth of information

This is my conclusion for my winter set:

Wheels

• Avant Garde BMW Type M359 ZCP Style 18 inch Wheels (Matte black )
• Front: 18x8.5 ET15 (23.5 lbs)
• Rear: 18x9.5 ET22 (25.5 lbs)

Tires

• Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D
• Front: 235/40R18
• Rear: 255/40R18

A few questions to confirm this should be kosher

1. For Canadian M3s what is the process regarding TPMS? Do I have to buy a kit? I read somewhere on here that there is a difference between American and Canadian vehicles when it comes down to the TPMS.
2. For the rear, a 255 tire on a 9.5 rim should be fine, right?
3. This setup should be up to OEM BMW standards and not mess up speedo, aspect ratios, etc

Any input would be greatly appreciated and if there are any pics of this winter setup, well, needless to say, I would love to see it

EDIT: just want to ensure this setup will work since I want to place my order for the tires ASAP on TireRack before they run out of stock...

I can't answer the TPMS question but I don't run it on my winter set. Regarding the other questions, 255 on a 9.5 works well, just don't expect a lot of rim protection but it shouldn't be stretched. Your speedo should be fine, just slightly over-reading (due to minimally shorter tires) but not by much.

[swifty]

Tirerack:
Please send me your best quote for 19, 255/275 (35); Bridgestone Blizzak LM60 for M3 shipped to Toronto Canada (L4W2Z6). No TPMS required. I tried using your search tool but having some issues.

Thanks.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by swifty

Tirerack:
Please send me your best quote for 19, 255/275 (35); Bridgestone Blizzak LM60 for M3 shipped to Toronto Canada (L4W2Z6). No TPMS required. I tried using your search tool but having some issues.

Thanks.

I don't know how often tirerack checks the forum. I would suggest calling the number on the tirerack banner above for quickest response.

[swifty]

Originally Posted by slicer

I don't know how often tirerack checks the forum. I would suggest calling the number on the tirerack banner above for quickest response.

Thanks & will do.

[AKG M3]

Originally Posted by Transfer

I can't answer the TPMS question but I don't run it on my winter set. Regarding the other questions, 255 on a 9.5 works well, just don't expect a lot of rim protection but it shouldn't be stretched. Your speedo should be fine, just slightly over-reading (due to minimally shorter tires) but not by much.

Hey, haven't checked this thread in a while. Thanks for the reply. I ended up ordering this setup but switched from the Dunlops to the Blizzaks LM32. Of course, will post pics once the winter setup is on the car.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

VMR VB3 18x8.5 et20 square

Blizzak LM-32 or Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D 235/40/R18

Will this setup work? Any issues?

Yes it works, but go with 245/40/18 square and you'll want spacers.