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      04-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #23
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I think ya'll have talked me down to a 335xi. I guess I have to be a race car driver to own an M3. But I see a lot of people with M3's for no damn reason. Even driving like shit.
It's true that lots of people have M3s despite never driving in any setting that would allow the car to be used as intended, never mind being skilled enough as drivers to really know how to drive the car. I believe that M3 owners who never take their cars to the track will never truly understand their car or why it's designed the way it was -- and people who only ever take their cars on city streets and freeways (no curvy back roads), well, they're just committing a crime.

A 335 will definitely give you fun, techy, sexy inside and out, and (especially if you get a tune) rollercoaster acceleration on tap. However, I'd recommend against the XI model since it rides higher, weighs more (and is therefore slower), and costs more, and if you're in California there's no need for AWD anyway. There are threads about this, but RWD is the way to go if you want the most sportiness and speed. The XI line pretty much only exists so BMW can sell cars in regions that get snow where RWD becomes trickier than FWD and AWD (though still not impossible).
Speed of 335i vs xi depends on e9x vs f3x.

In a straight line, the xi is purported to be faster. BMW claims 0-60 of 4.8 for 335xi vs. 5.1 for 335i, even with the added weight.

The weight distribution is better on the f30 335i vs. xi. Not sure which would be faster outside of a straight line.
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      04-13-2013, 06:09 PM   #24
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thanks. I think you're right. I'm still stuck on M3 anyway and am pretty sure I'll be buying this summer.
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      04-13-2013, 06:11 PM   #25
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OK, for all the haters before, the only thread I found was the 2011.75 press release updates.
I can't find the threads detailing the 2012 and 2013 updates. wtf.
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      04-14-2013, 09:05 PM   #26
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OK, for all the haters before, the only thread I found was the 2011.75 press release updates.
I can't find the threads detailing the 2012 and 2013 updates. wtf.
That's because the only change in 2012 was reshuffling of packages and options (the Convenience and former Premium package were consolidated into one new Premium package), and to my knowledge there were no changes at all for 2013.
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      04-15-2013, 12:18 AM   #27
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Flea, 2012 had rear cup holders for coupe and modern angel eyes update.


Jk
The angel eyes looked the same to me, all with amber color.
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      04-15-2013, 09:01 AM   #28
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The angel eyes looked the same to me, all with amber color.
As mentioned in post #26 "jk" meant "Just kidding"


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      04-15-2013, 09:10 AM   #29
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OK, for all the haters before, the only thread I found was the 2011.75 press release updates.
I can't find the threads detailing the 2012 and 2013 updates. wtf.
"haters"?

You're getting a pretty easy ride here, as far as how much some people get flamed.

Before posting much of anything, you should have been reading this forum (especially this sub-forum) for a few weeks. At the least, you would have seen examples of repetitive dumb questions.

Here is a little advice, take it or leave it:
  • Google isn't the place to start your search about specific M3 information; this forum is the place (you know that already)
  • If you go "in" to this forum professing interest in an M3, and then you start writing about "screw it, I'm going to stick with an abc-model car" then your chances of getting anyone to respond is pretty much dead. You have missed the cardinal rule about life: "Everybody's newborn baby looks good." (whether you believe it or not, you have to say their kid is awesome.)
  • It's a natural tendency to be defensive when someone calls you out for newbie mistakes; if you get to riled-up, you'll again cut down 80% of your potential advice. This is the "don't be an ass" rule, even if one or two people are an ass to you, remember there is a larger audience.
  • Read the forums.
  • [new] If you really care so much about the trim on the center console, then you're going to hate that there's no full-size spare tire.

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      04-16-2013, 04:45 AM   #30
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I've updated the main post to include info I dug up on the forums. Someone is going to thank God all you all the whining has led me to do this to spare me some dignity. It really wasn't that easy to find. All I was looking for were the main updates. I wasn't asking for a detailed official BMW option nomenclature breakdown. That summary could have been done in 30 seconds by a knowledgeable individual.
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      05-10-2013, 10:57 AM   #31
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I've updated the main post to include info I dug up on the forums. Someone is going to thank God all you all the whining has led me to do this to spare me some dignity. It really wasn't that easy to find. All I was looking for were the main updates. I wasn't asking for a detailed official BMW option nomenclature breakdown. That summary could have been done in 30 seconds by a knowledgeable individual.
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      05-10-2013, 11:16 AM   #32
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looks about right now, so where's your M3?
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      05-14-2013, 05:50 AM   #33
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looks about right now, so where's your M3?
I'm haggling with the dealer on lease MF and other jacked up fee's after we already "agreed" on a price over invoice. I said I didn't want to pay all those fee's and asked for a finance quote which drops off those costs. He doesn't seem eager to make this sale. Pissin me off.
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so why was this a 'sticky'?

I'm not seeing too much about the differences between the different years here - just people saying 'its all wrong' but not really eloborating on it. thus, is the only major difference from 2008 to 2011 the idrive? and there is no difference between a 2011 onward to 2013 car? i.e, you couldn't tell what year the car was if they had the same mileage and condition?

If you look at a 2008, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13 cars from the outside, can't tell what year right? if you sit inside you might be able to tell by the idrive dial?

And it would be nice to get a response that is not just 'wrong'. words would help or pictures.
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cloth visors 2008 - 2012 VS plastic visors in 2013
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cloth visors 2008 - 2012 VS plastic visors in 2013
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      12-10-2016, 02:34 AM   #37
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Apparently different deflection pulley on oil filter housing and different AC/steering belt pattern. I guess power steering pulley spinning in different direction
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Updated with correct info for future reference (since this info wasn't all that easy to come by)!

2009 - updated navigation with internal hard drive (much) improved interface, new tail lights (sedan only)

2010 - standard HD radio and optional automatic headlights. [edmunds]

2011 -
"2011.5" (Sep 2010)

-Extended bluetooth:
- streaming audio over bluetooth,
- mobile office: email, text messages and notes displayed and/or read aloud
- external call list downloaded from phone
-iPod adapter updates (new Combox hardware not retrofitable to older models)
-No longer need Y-cable, use standard iphone usb cable, streams music digitally from device
-Album cover art displayed from metadata in track
-Voice command control external devices and select genre, artist, album, and song title by simply speaking the words.
-Mobile phone device driver update with BMW Assist (sounds stupid and wonder if this costs for their service)
- Competition package that adds a 10mm lowered suspension, 19-inch wheels w/ performance tires, reprogrammed electronic damping and stability controls.
- M button - programs your M settings - set the drivers preferences for Stability Control, Steering mode, Shift light, EDC, and if the car has the M DCT the Drive logic mode can also be set
- Automatic/Start Stop - car shuts off at complete stops, button controlled option (defaulted to Off on US model, On for euro models)
- Manual M Sport Seats - Remove electronic seat for weight savings. Lumber support and seatback side bolters remain electrically adjustable.
- New Mineral White Metallic paint is available
- New LED tail lights on coupe
- Leather option changes, Premium pkg 2 (adds power front seats), new Convenience Package replacing technology package

"2011.75" (March 2011) - BMW Apps integration (pandora, facebook, twitter etc)

2012 - None
what year did the coupe get updated tailights? 2011?
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Why is this thread a sticky, it's a dumpster fire and nowhere near as good as stuff that's already available with google

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50
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The angel eyes looked the same to me, all with amber color.
To my knowledge when I bought my car they continued to only sell them with amber angel eyes. Not long after I bought replacement white LED lights. Much better
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Wow, 2 pages of a guy who never had a car and couldn't figure it out
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This thread must be BS because when I depress my M button I get whiplash from the extra 50 whp...
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They all have v8s who cares about everything else.
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Question, I'm looking at a few engine parts for a friends 2012 M3. One of the parts is an alternator. I'm about to order online, but https://www.bmwdiscountparts.com is giving me different prices for the same part, different year. Will a 2011 M3 OEM alternator fit in a 2012 M3? They seem to be identical in dimensions. Any input is appreciated.
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