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05-03-2013, 01:08 AM | #24 | |
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You seem to know your stuff. I read your responses in a sway bar thread. After reading all the info I realized sways just aren't needed if you're going to run 400lb + springs and are still daily-ing your car. Maybe in the future, but I just don't find it necessary, at all. Not even ideal |
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You can try the OEM links in the front but there is a chance you'll get a clunk. I'm not sure if you'll need rear links, I'd call TCK on that.
I don't think sways are really necessary especially for a DD/street car.
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I agree. Unnecessary. Well looks line the S/A, Camber Plates, and adjustable front and rear end links are in my future. Are the Dinan rear Toe Links needed for geometry issues, or just an "upgrade"?
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I also think the rear toe links are a waste unless you can't get the rear toe within spec for some reason. I had the same Dinan links installed and I'm back on OEM rear links.
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My only concern is still the rear sway bar end links. They should probably be switched out along with the fronts when lowering on a setup that will see track time. Maybe if people are getting away with it or have lowered with coils give some input? |
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Just so you know our take on the situation......We have never put adjustable end links on any of our track cars(specifically our E90 M3 track car).
If your car is set to the appropriate ride height (equal on the left and right side) there is no need for adjustable end links. The only time you will put 'pre-load' on the sway bar is when the left and right ride heights are not set equal (and there is no reason they should be unequal). Hope that helps. |
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Originally was saving up to get an AST setup however very tempted to get this kit since I can get a very good deal on one.
Will this hold up to monthly track days? Using a 400lb/ 600lb spring rate? Doing a search I find that people say the AST is more track oriented where as the TCK is more dual use oriented. I had AST 4100's on a MK6 GTI. It was corner balanced and setup by West End Alignment and was tracked monthly. On the track the car had tons of grip, was never upset by quick transitions, was never upset by the berms in the corners, and together with front and rear sway bars, bushings all around made for a very balanced track car. On the street, the AST's where very very comfortable. In fact when I put my factory suspension back in after parting out the GTI... The ride between the AST ride was actually much more comfortable than the oe ride. Feedback from the person that I sold the kit to also said that it road better than his factory R20 suspension and had tons more grip. So with that said... I have a very good deal I can get on the TCK S/A coilovers with camber plates... Coming from an AST setup... Am I gonna be disappointed? |
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Imho... You don't need adjustable end links to corner balance unless you are sitting so low that it is pre loading the sway bar...
I don't think the optimum heights for the track is low enough to pre load the sway bars so you should be fine. But this is just my opinion as I dont have much M3 experience to really know... My previous car was cornerbalanced and setup at the optimum ride height for the track and there was no pre loading. |
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Your corner heights should be in a similar ratio to OEM. Again, not sure if you NEED adjustable sway bar links. If TC Kline says no...then its probably no. The OE E9X M3 links are much beefier than the E46 links. Most of the reasoning to upgrade to adjustable links on the E46 was to swap in a stronger part, not an adjustable part (i.e. shorter end link).
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Okay. Well I really don't know what to do then. Spend X amt. of dollars on links and installing them and corner balance, or just drop the car on coils how I want it to look with as close to OEM rake as possible and be done with it. Sigh, JUST trying to do it right and my knowledge on suspension geometry is too low to grasp exactly why this is or isn't an issue. |
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The description you have above is exactly what I would say about a TC Kline Racing suspension. |
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He is typically booked 3 weeks in advance, and the session typically takes 3-4 hours... Majority of local track people go there. Too bad you don't have anyone like that in Florida |
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May try a couple places soon tho Last edited by 325rider; 05-09-2013 at 01:05 PM.. |
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Does the TCKLINE S/A come with Thrust sheets? Or do you have to purchase all of that separately? What is the benefit of those?
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It does not come with the thrust sheets, but if you are driving the car on the street, I would put them on. I have them on my E36 M3. The thrust sheets mainly help at low parking lot speeds. Once about 25-30mph, the thrust sheets aren't needed as much.
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