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      08-26-2013, 11:48 PM   #309
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They claimed to have their products made in USA when a member here on bimmerpost uncovered that they largely import from China.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=473671

They advertised that they used only the highest in quality materials, however the truth was that they used low-quality resin.
Since this thread is back, I'm a bit fuzzy on your statement here. I have no particular affinity towards Vorsteiner, but nowhere in the thread you quoted was it proven that any Vorsteiner products were imported from China, nor were any facts stated of their resin quality.

Start to finish, here were the items I believe you were referring to - every one of which was pure conjecture:

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They probably get their stuff done over in china as well.
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(OP) My body shop brought up to Vorsteiner about how they are getting everything from China. They completely and 100% denied that.
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it maybe true what your body shop says it is most likely true because of cheap labor materials.
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Sorry to hear about that... all the comments from others are probably true.
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It's only take about 2 weeks the most to make the trunk and get it ship out the door.

Now we know it's not made in the USA at all.
I count two "probably"s, one "most likely", and one speculative book cover pic, all of which are guesses and personal e-pinions. Perhaps you meant to quote a different thread? And despite this thread, which showed definitive proof of materials, vacuum molding, and just about the entire production process, there were still accusations of "no production proof".

Massive lead times and previous fitment issues notwithstanding, it seems a bit unfair to add further unproven statements to a company's reputation. But yeah, months and months for a hood (and then with a crack in it) would certainly drive me batty too, no matter who was making/selling it!

I guess I would be mostly in the camp of the poor guy (cookie295) who waited over half a year for his Vorsteiner part, in that I really prefer to give companies the benefit of the doubt, to a point. Mainly because I've been on the other side of the fence in the retail arena before - but of course, that definitely doesn't excuse bad communication during the process.

All of the negative aura surrounding their reputation is truly a shame, too, since some of their parts truly do look amazing. I really didn't think anyone could actually improve on a McLaren MP4 until I saw what they did with one.
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      08-27-2013, 09:42 AM   #310
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I bought from eBay China a rear carbon fiber diffuser for around $335 shipped. It took only 8 days since I bought it and paid it, to arrive to my door steps in Puerto Rico.

Fitment 7/10
Quality 8/10
Cost 10/10 only $335 when the apparently "original Vorsteiner" cost $1,800.
LOL

And people say fitment in Voirsteiner is NO direct fitment. LOL

So i believe they are the same

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      08-27-2013, 09:50 AM   #311
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very interesting thread indeed. Thanks posting.
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      08-27-2013, 09:53 AM   #312
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      08-27-2013, 10:32 AM   #313
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AWESOME job Carlos!!!
Once you're TUV, you're in a TOTALLY different class as all these other fly by night companies.
I've had MORR wheels on my wife's 335 since 2007 and tracked them a few times too. No issues at all.

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Not sure if you were implying the Morr has TUV approval or not but what I read is that their processes are done to TUV standards; not that they have TUV approval / certification for their wheels. Two very different things.
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      08-27-2013, 09:57 PM   #314
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I hear everyone mentioning wheels that they would buy (at least on this page) and no one mentioned HRE?

And also, if ADV1 is so terrible, how come they always have their wheels on exotics? (I in no way sticking up for anyone, just asking lol)
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      08-27-2013, 10:38 PM   #315
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I hear everyone mentioning wheels that they would buy (at least on this page) and no one mentioned HRE?

And also, if ADV1 is so terrible, how come they always have their wheels on exotics? (I in no way sticking up for anyone, just asking lol)
They have their wheels in exotic, because their prices are exotic.
No cheap car will have a $8,000 set of wheels.

ADV1 are beautiful wheels, but maybe their price should be around $1,900 a set of wheels and not their exotic price.

They have made them exotic due to pricing not quality
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      08-28-2013, 07:07 AM   #316
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They have their wheels in exotic, because their prices are exotic.
No cheap car will have a $8,000 set of wheels.

ADV1 are beautiful wheels, but maybe their price should be around $1,900 a set of wheels and not their exotic price.

They have made them exotic due to pricing not quality


good explanation.I sure would like to know if these exotic owners are aware of the quality of the wheels.....

but most are brandwhores anyway, so question asked and answered.
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      08-28-2013, 07:20 AM   #317
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Perhaps, ADV.1 simply pays the exotic cars' owners a marketing fees for a quick photo shoot and when done, ADV.1 will take the wheels back out.
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      08-28-2013, 10:17 AM   #318
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I hear everyone mentioning wheels that they would buy (at least on this page) and no one mentioned HRE?

And also, if ADV1 is so terrible, how come they always have their wheels on exotics? (I in no way sticking up for anyone, just asking lol)
HRE's are top notch. No better custom wheel maker IMO.
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      08-28-2013, 10:47 AM   #319
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HRE's are top notch. No better custom wheel maker IMO.
The service I've gotten from them has been incredible. And I'm like the 3rd or 4th owner of my wheels!
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      08-28-2013, 04:07 PM   #320
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HRE's are top notch. No better custom wheel maker IMO.



i figured so. just wanted to make sure. lol
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      08-29-2013, 01:11 PM   #321
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Hi all,

I just wanted to chime in and show how HRE accomplishes wheel assembly the proper way.

Example: S101 (In Satin Charcoal)





Please feel free to contact me with any questions regarding HRE. Also, if you are local, send me an email and I can give you a personal tour of our facilities.

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      08-29-2013, 01:29 PM   #322
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Hi all,

I just wanted to chime in and show how HRE accomplishes wheel assembly the proper way.

Example: S101 (In Satin Charcoal)





Please feel free to contact me with any questions regarding HRE. Also, if you are local, send me an email and I can give you a personal tour of our facilities.

EvanB@hrewheels.com
Where are you guys located? Should take advantage of teh south and the cheap property taxs. Very business friendly down here to encourage people to come... BMW did
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HRE is located in Vista, California 92081
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      08-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #324
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Hi all,

I just wanted to chime in and show how HRE accomplishes wheel assembly the proper way.

Example: S101 (In Satin Charcoal)

Please feel free to contact me with any questions regarding HRE. Also, if you are local, send me an email and I can give you a personal tour of our facilities.

EvanB@hrewheels.com
Great pictures and info. Thanks!!

The best HRE wheel for our M3 E9X :-)

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I hear everyone mentioning wheels that they would buy (at least on this page) and no one mentioned HRE?

And also, if ADV1 is so terrible, how come they always have their wheels on exotics? (I in no way sticking up for anyone, just asking lol)
HRE charges you big price. But their products are top notch. Plus Lon was a very awesome guy to deal with (i don't know if he's still in HRE or not). I certainly am very pleased with my purchase from HRE...

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All of the negative aura surrounding their reputation is truly a shame, too, since some of their parts truly do look amazing. I really didn't think anyone could actually improve on a McLaren MP4 until I saw what they did with one.
ADV.1 also makes very great looking wheels. Does that mean we should all close our eyes and forget what actually their wheels are?

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I bought from eBay China a rear carbon fiber diffuser for around $335 shipped. It took only 8 days since I bought it and paid it, to arrive to my door steps in Puerto Rico.

Fitment 7/10
Quality 8/10
Cost 10/10 only $335 when the apparently "original Vorsteiner" cost $1,800.
LOL

And people say fitment in Voirsteiner is NO direct fitment. LOL

So i believe they are the same
Mine wasn't. The installer and i spent a whole afternoon trying to make it fit. And i was charged close to 10 times more than what you paid for you diffuser. I think i deserved less problems, don't you think so?
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      08-29-2013, 09:09 PM   #326
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Mine wasn't. The installer and i spent a whole afternoon trying to make it fit. And i was charged close to 10 times more than what you paid for you diffuser. I think i deserved less problems, don't you think so?
Yours was Vorsteiner or eBay?

I installed mine myself in the garage. It took me like 45 minutes, alcohol, a screwdriver and good 3M tape. My assistant was my wife. LOL
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good explanation.I sure would like to know if these exotic owners are aware of the quality of the wheels.....

but most are brandwhores anyway, so question asked and answered.
Dont' go to the M5 board here and mention how bad ADV's are. I gave them links, but they said it was just a bunch of people saying "They suck" for 10+ pages.
Then the mods banned me because I mentioned their engine was based on a regular "N" engine, and that's why BMW recommends their standard 5W30 oil.

Once you get up to that price range, they don't take the time to research what they're buying and won't listen to you if you aren't in "the club" they're in. It's too bad. It's too bad the mods have a similar attitude.

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      08-30-2013, 03:27 AM   #328
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I would just got for DPE Wheels. Had them in several of my cars and will put DPE in my e92 m3 as well. Love the pricing, customer service and designs.
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      08-30-2013, 08:11 AM   #329
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I've read better reviews for Rota wheels than ADV1.
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      08-30-2013, 10:45 AM   #330
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Fly-by-night forged wheel companies are a dime a dozen these days. Just stay with the good stuff and you'll be fine.
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