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      04-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #23
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I use Enkei NT03+M in 18x10 ET25 size. They were pretty cheap when I bought them. They are relatively light (20.5 lb) and are holding up very well after 60+ track days (and I do ride the curbs ).

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Any comments on how enkei compares to Apex?
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      04-16-2013, 09:12 PM   #24
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Only issue with arc-8's is BBK clearance, and for a track wheel that could be something to consider.
Stoptech 380's fit under Arc-8 18's, so that's a good point. Arc-8's have EXCELLENT BBK clearance!
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      04-16-2013, 11:52 PM   #25
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Apex ARC8 are probably the best bang for the buck.. if you don't mind having the same wheels as just every other M3 on the track.

Other options:

Apex EC7
Enkei NT03+M
Tire rack TR MT1
Volk TE37
Volk TE37 SL
CCW anything

For track use I personally like whatever is cheaper and more readily available. So if you damage a rim you can get a replacement easily and rapidly.

All these wheels are light and strong and you can't go wrong with any of them. If anything they will bend -not crack- so you are still able to keep driving/drive home.
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      04-17-2013, 01:46 PM   #26
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Only issue with arc-8's is BBK clearance, and for a track wheel that could be something to consider.
Brembo 380 will not work, but StopTech 380 will.

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Good point Klammer! Thank you. I'm still stock brake wise (I just upgrade to a track pad and fluid for track days at this point)...but still good to know.
You could still use Brembo 365/345 or StopTech 380/355 with the Arc-8's
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      04-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #27
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I have the Tire Rack TR Motorsport MT1. 18X10 ET25, weight 20.0 lbs.
I believe that Enkei make them for TR. They've worked well for me and are on for 329.00 each. Only had them for one season, about 12 days so far, but holding up great.
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Great price. Structurally no problems so far. Only complaint is that the paint finish is very easy to chip. But who cares about looks on the track
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      04-18-2013, 01:58 AM   #28
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I was interested in the ARC8's until I learned that a few people bent them at Laguna. That's not to say that another wheel wouldn't have gotten bent in the same scenario, but the fact that it happened to more than one person kept me away. But I agree, probably the best track wheel on a tighter budget.

I bent two of my TE37SL in button after hitting one of the curbs hard. I was able to straiten them out no problem.

You'll bend any wheel when hit hard, as long as it doesnt come apart, its all good.

TE37SL still get my vote, but if on tight budget or track only I recommend Apex.
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      04-18-2013, 08:16 AM   #29
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Only issue with arc-8's is BBK clearance, and for a track wheel that could be something to consider.
the apex EC-7 has more clearance than the ARC-8. my 380 stoptech fit fine.
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Any comments on how enkei compares to Apex?
I don't have experience with the Apex, so I cannot really tell . I can only say I am very happy with the Enkei
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Any comments on how enkei compares to Apex?
Enkei are VIA/JWL and have a reputation for making a quality wheel.



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the apex EC-7 has more clearance than the ARC-8. my 380 stoptech fit fine.
The EC7 was designed to fit Brembo 380 BBK.

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      04-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #32
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Question - looks like most of these lightweight wheels are in the 19.5 - 20.5lbs per wheel range. Does anyone know how that compares to the OEM 18's the car came stock with? Are we looking at around a 5lb weight saving per corner (20lbs total)?

Just trying to get an idea of what the total savings will be.
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      04-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #33
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Vs. the OEM 18's, it's 4-5lbs per corner

But once you throw the wider tires most people are using on there, you're only looking at saving 5-10lbs total or so. I saved closer to 25 with my 18" TR MT1's but I'm using Hoosiers which are about the same weight as the stock tires
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Any comments on how enkei compares to Apex?
Enkei has a far longer and more proven history. I would prefer them over Apex. Unfortunately the Enkei nt03 does not clear stoptech 380mm. I briefly had a set of apex wheels and was not impressed. The finish was mediocre (chipped easily), they didn't fit tight around the hubs, and it was difficult for me to get them balanced. It took two shops three attempts. It is possible that the new tires were the culprit (wheels were new too) but i have not had the problem with other wheels. I think the best bang for the buck is a square set of OEM 18 x 9.5. My favorite track option is Volk te37's (which of course cost more). They are light, strong and great sizes/offsets. I just foolishly ordered a set of te37's for the track despite the fact that I already have a set of OEM 18's... I have had nothing but great results with Volk wheels in the past.
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      04-19-2013, 10:05 AM   #35
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It would be nice if BBS and Volk designed a 18"x10" track wheel with the correct offsets for the e92/e46 M3. It would be ideal to not use a spacer for tracking/racing and I think this is where Apex and Enkie have an advantage.
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