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      04-13-2013, 07:21 AM   #1
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Oil Change Before or After Track Day?

I changed my oil about 1000 miles ago and was wondering if I should change it again now, before my 3 days at Summit Point, or right after?
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      04-13-2013, 07:22 AM   #2
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You should be good even after the track day. 1000 miles is nothing. When I was exclusively tracking my E46 M3, I went about 10 days track, and sent in it for a sample and everything was still at normal levels.
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      04-13-2013, 08:47 AM   #3
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depends on you. some do it after every event but i usually go about half season before i change depending on number of days driven.
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Thanks. So at the very least I don't need to change it before.
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      04-13-2013, 09:00 AM   #5
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Thanks. So at the very least I don't need to change it before.
shouldnt need to. if its 3 day event may consider after.
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As stated above - 1,000 miles on spec oil is nothing. Nothing. I would change oil at half schedule once and get a Blackstone oil analysis. Blackstone will give you specific recommendations. That way you are making good decisions based upon facts - not speculation. Don't give Blackstone oil with 1,000-2,000 miles on it. You won't learn anything useful.
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I tend to change my oil after about every 6 track days ( I do about 16 days a year). So 2 DIY's and 1 free one at the dealer each year.

And I have a S/C to watch out for.....


Have you changed your brake fluid recently ( this spring?) or upgraded to a higher grade brake fluid?
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I tend to change my oil after about every 6 track days ( I do about 16 days a year). So 2 DIY's and 1 free one at the dealer each year.

And I have a S/C to watch out for.....


Have you changed your brake fluid recently ( this spring?) or upgraded to a higher grade brake fluid?
When I went for my tech inspection they flushed the fluid and put in Motul 600.
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When I went for my tech inspection they flushed the fluid and put in Motul 600.
Did you also use ss brake line for brake?
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Did you also use ss brake line for brake?
Yep.
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Yep.
everything good. I was about to pull the trigger when I did the service. The machinist told me some scary story then I give up.
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Forget the oil. Bleed the brakes and check the pads. Needs to be done no more than 6 months prior to our events.
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My car's just over 39,000 miles now, and have done 8 oil changes, including the one at 1,200 break-in service.

If you don't count that first one, I've done oil changes at around every 5,500 miles.

And, at 53 track days, that comes out to an oil change at every 7.5 track days.

The car's in tip top shape, especially after spark plug change (finally) a couple of weeks ago. The motor is silky smooth after said spark plug change.

But, you should definitely keep an eye on the oil level. During past 6 months, 2 of my track buddies (370z & M3) blew their motors on the track due to oil starvation (not sure exactly how low they were).

My car never had oil leak issue, and I do check randomly once or twice a month while I'm driving. But, from now on (especially after the recent M3 motor episode), I plan on leaving my nav screen on the oil level screen from now on while tracking.
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I do oil changes at 5-6k miles or 8 track days, whichever comes first. I sent a sample to Blackstone that had right at 5500, plus 6 days, and the oil was still good to go and showed no unusual wear at all. Every 1000 miles or every 3 days is way frequent. These aren't high strung race engines, they're diluted to work 24/7/365 in traffic and with neglect. I was also running Liqui Moly FWIW, had slightly better number readings than the Castrol.
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My car's just over 39,000 miles now, and have done 8 oil changes, including the one at 1,200 break-in service.

If you don't count that first one, I've done oil changes at around every 5,500 miles.

And, at 53 track days, that comes out to an oil change at every 7.5 track days.

The car's in tip top shape, especially after spark plug change (finally) a couple of weeks ago. The motor is silky smooth after said spark plug change.

But, you should definitely keep an eye on the oil level. During past 6 months, 2 of my track buddies (370z & M3) blew their motors on the track due to oil starvation (not sure exactly how low they were).

My car never had oil leak issue, and I do check randomly once or twice a month while I'm driving. But, from now on (especially after the recent M3 motor episode), I plan on leaving my nav screen on the oil level screen from now on while tracking.
I saw another m3 blow out its motor, at a recent track day. Apparently the 1st day its ever been driven at one & he started out the morning saying he was low on oil the night before. Not sure if he simply didn't add enough and faced starvation issues or he added enough and something else caused it. I added a quart of similarly graded synthetic that morning just in case!

My car has had 3-4 days on the current oil plus 5-8k miles on it. I plan on changing this weekend if possible. On my E36 I run a thicker (diesel grade synthetic) oil better suited to the warmer months & tracking. I believe its 15w50.

Does anyone do this with their E92? If so, what grade? I get the whole warranty issue but the I'm also assuming the grading of the OEM oil is for a broader temperature range allowing for colder weather. Track temps now for me have already been 75-80+ during the 4 track days Ive been to. Also if anyone is running Redline or Lubro-moly etc....instead.
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I saw another m3 blow out its motor, at a recent track day. Apparently the 1st day its ever been driven at one & he started out the morning saying he was low on oil the night before. Not sure if he simply didn't add enough and faced starvation issues or he added enough and something else caused it. I added a quart of similarly graded synthetic that morning just in case!

My car has had 3-4 days on the current oil plus 5-8k miles on it. I plan on changing this weekend if possible. On my E36 I run a thicker (diesel grade synthetic) oil better suited to the warmer months & tracking. I believe its 15w50.

Does anyone do this with their E92? If so, what grade? I get the whole warranty issue but the I'm also assuming the grading of the OEM oil is for a broader temperature range allowing for colder weather. Track temps now for me have already been 75-80+ during the 4 track days Ive been to.

I run ELF Racing Synthetic in the E92. It's used mostly in race bikes, and with the high rev'ing short stroke engine of the E92, it's pretty reliable. I race this car and instruct HPDEs, roughly 60+ days a year, and I change it 3-4 times a season.. I change it in the beginning of the season regardless of last oil change.
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My car's just over 39,000 miles now, and have done 8 oil changes, including the one at 1,200 break-in service.

If you don't count that first one, I've done oil changes at around every 5,500 miles.

And, at 53 track days, that comes out to an oil change at every 7.5 track days.

The car's in tip top shape, especially after spark plug change (finally) a couple of weeks ago. The motor is silky smooth after said spark plug change.

But, you should definitely keep an eye on the oil level. During past 6 months, 2 of my track buddies (370z & M3) blew their motors on the track due to oil starvation (not sure exactly how low they were).

My car never had oil leak issue, and I do check randomly once or twice a month while I'm driving. But, from now on (especially after the recent M3 motor episode), I plan on leaving my nav screen on the oil level screen from now on while tracking.
I saw another m3 blow out its motor, at a recent track day. Apparently the 1st day its ever been driven at one & he started out the morning saying he was low on oil the night before. Not sure if he simply didn't add enough and faced starvation issues or he added enough and something else caused it. I added a quart of similarly graded synthetic that morning just in case!

My car has had 3-4 days on the current oil plus 5-8k miles on it. I plan on changing this weekend if possible. On my E36 I run a thicker (diesel grade synthetic) oil better suited to the warmer months & tracking. I believe its 15w50.

Does anyone do this with their E92? If so, what grade? I get the whole warranty issue but the I'm also assuming the grading of the OEM oil is for a broader temperature range allowing for colder weather. Track temps now for me have already been 75-80+ during the 4 track days Ive been to. Also if anyone is running Redline or Lubro-moly etc....instead.
I ran redline 10-60, and was pretty disappointed the oil temp ran higher on the track than the Castrol. Motul oil works best!
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I run ELF Racing Synthetic in the E92. It's used mostly in race bikes, and with the high rev'ing short stroke engine of the E92, it's pretty reliable. I race this car and instruct HPDEs, roughly 60+ days a year, and I change it 3-4 times a season.. I change it in the beginning of the season regardless of last oil change.
Are you using a dry-sump system or just standard pan/oiling? I didn't see it in your car build link.
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      04-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #19
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Are you using a dry-sump system or just standard pan/oiling? I didn't see it in your car build link.
Standard for now. Oil and Engine upgrades are next.
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Based on the numerous samples I have sent to the Blackstone Labs (average interval = 7,500 miles and ~7+ track days), I am quite confident that we can go up to nearly 10,000 miles before an oil change.
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