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      11-06-2012, 08:01 AM   #265
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.... have not seen/heard of any structural issues ... but

Not a fan of Morr wheel at all after reading so many customer complaints of their after sales service and the inability to work out the solution with the customers. There are a few threads on the 5post forum.

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      11-25-2012, 07:58 PM   #266
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.... have not seen/heard of any structural issues ... but

Not a fan of Morr wheel at all after reading so many customer complaints of their after sales service and the inability to work out the solution with the customers. There are a few threads on the 5post forum.
Like any company, we have had situations that we have had to deal with. Shipping damages, lost packages, back-ordered parts, delay in production, defects in the paint, etc. These are things that any wheel business will encounter. These issues, however, are minimal and when they have occurred, we have handled them effectively and in favor of the customer. There is one particular case, on the 5post forum, where a HK customer received his wheels and reported the finish as being defective. No questions asked, we brought the wheels back to the US, replaced all the parts the customer requested to be replaced, and shipped it back to the customer. All this at no cost to him.

Other than that, I do not know of any other customer issues. "so many customer complaints" and "inability to work out the solution with the customers" might be stretching the truth. No intention to bump this thread other than to avoid speculation.

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Can anyone here tell me if they have ever heard of a problem with MORR wheels?
We make very strong, lightweight and structurally sound wheels. We use FEM on every one of our applications to make sure our wheels are capable of withstanding the required load, whether for street or track applications. For the past 7 years, we have never had any mechanical/structural failure and we intend to keep it that way. Not that it cannot happen, but it's our job to do the best we can to make sure we push the envelope and produce the best wheels possible.

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      11-26-2012, 04:04 PM   #267
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Like any company, we have had situations that we have had to deal with. Shipping damages, lost packages, back-ordered parts, delay in production, defects in the paint, etc. These are things that any wheel business will encounter. These issues, however, are minimal and when they have occurred, we have handled them effectively and in favor of the customer. There is one particular case, on the 5post forum, where a HK customer received his wheels and reported the finish as being defective. No questions asked, we brought the wheels back to the US, replaced all the parts the customer requested to be replaced, and shipped it back to the customer. All this at no cost to him.

Other than that, I do not know of any other customer issues. "so many customer complaints" and "inability to work out the solution with the customers" might be stretching the truth. No intention to bump this thread other than to avoid speculation.



We make very strong, lightweight and structurally sound wheels. We use FEM on every one of our applications to make sure our wheels are capable of withstanding the required load, whether for street or track applications. For the past 7 years, we have never had any mechanical/structural failure and we intend to keep it that way. Not that it cannot happen, but it's our job to do the best we can to make sure we push the envelope and produce the best wheels possible.

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Sounds like you are trying to be candid so let's go a little further.
While I have not heard of any failures there have been a few reports of delays and late completion dates. Seems you guys never deliver when you promise. Why is that?
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      12-03-2012, 05:16 PM   #268
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Guys,

Everything was settled, so I write the result.
Finally I got the refund in full from ADV
The procedure for the refund was troublesome a little bit, so it took a time , but their communication was not bad, and I think they had dealt with me honestly for this time.

Thank you for your support guys!

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Glad to hear it worked out. Right when Jordan said these are safe, your first action if you were in Los Angeles would be LAWSUIT. Hire a forensic engineering expert who deals in structural integrity and you are definitely going to win. Unfortunately you are in Japan and the process would be very troublesome and I believe that ADV1 thought you would never go that far. Once you had brought it public they were up against the wall and had to cut their losses or if they didn't fix the situation the inevitable LAWSUIT would happen.
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      12-03-2012, 07:05 PM   #269
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Like any company, we have had situations that we have had to deal with. Shipping damages, lost packages, back-ordered parts, delay in production, defects in the paint, etc. These are things that any wheel business will encounter. These issues, however, are minimal and when they have occurred, we have handled them effectively and in favor of the customer. There is one particular case, on the 5post forum, where a HK customer received his wheels and reported the finish as being defective. No questions asked, we brought the wheels back to the US, replaced all the parts the customer requested to be replaced, and shipped it back to the customer. All this at no cost to him.

Other than that, I do not know of any other customer issues. "so many customer complaints" and "inability to work out the solution with the customers" might be stretching the truth. No intention to bump this thread other than to avoid speculation.



We make very strong, lightweight and structurally sound wheels. We use FEM on every one of our applications to make sure our wheels are capable of withstanding the required load, whether for street or track applications. For the past 7 years, we have never had any mechanical/structural failure and we intend to keep it that way. Not that it cannot happen, but it's our job to do the best we can to make sure we push the envelope and produce the best wheels possible.

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Carlos, You know I'm a HUGE fan of MORR- I've owned a set for year and tracked on them a few times with dropping a wheel a few times without incident, but just wondering if you do any type of certification for your wheels.


As for delivering on time, I know MORR had issues with some group buy's early on when demand was much greater than they were prepared to handle. They were getting held up at different steps of the wheel preparation. I haven't seen much lately about delay, but don't follow other boards for wheels.

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      04-16-2013, 11:06 PM   #270
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Why people pay ADV's prices crazy!!! 10k for 20' Wheels lol Crazy!!!!! HRE for me are the best wheels ...

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      04-17-2013, 11:04 PM   #271
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Why people pay ADV's prices crazy, 10k for 20' lol Crazy!!!!! HRE for me are best wheels ...
To me nothing beats Rays Eng & BBS. Proven already for street & track.
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      04-20-2013, 10:06 PM   #272
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LOL Take a look at this ....

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664569

And the sale 20" for 10K the ppl lost their mined!!!!!
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      04-27-2013, 08:21 PM   #273
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797839

crooks back at it again.

Someone please set them straight.
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797839

crooks back at it again.

Someone please set them straight.
Ok let me set you straight with some facts.......(I know this because when I ordered my 360s shit hit the fan)

.The now owner of ADV1 is Jordan
.The now owner of 360 is Forged Distributing

.The previous owner of 360 was Jordan


Okay.... So when I ordered my wheels a few years back 360 was going under, this is why a lot of people were not getting their wheels on time if at all.... Then in comes Forged distributing a company that owns various wheel brands already.
Forged Distributing buys out 360 from Jordan and makes good on the backlog of orders although this does take time to catch up.

Now soon after Jordan starts another company.... ADV1... This company has nothing to do with 360 anymore....

Just to clarify I had my 360s for over for years... Sold them to a friend and then he sold them after.... And as far as I'm aware they are still going strong.
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      04-27-2013, 10:47 PM   #275
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Not sure where most people's frustrations with the wheels comes from. Essentially ALL 'Forged' Wheel companies (short of Japanese/German Companies) come from the same place, MHT/COR. So quality you'll get from ADV1 is no different than 360 Forged/MORR/ISS etc etc etc.

If you want to bitch about shitty service, that's a different story, wheel quality is identical.
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      04-27-2013, 11:31 PM   #276
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Not sure where most people's frustrations with the wheels comes from. Essentially ALL 'Forged' Wheel companies (short of Japanese/German Companies) come from the same place, MHT/COR. So quality you'll get from ADV1 is no different than 360 Forged/MORR/ISS etc etc etc.

If you want to bitch about shitty service, that's a different story, wheel quality is identical.
And I wouldn't put any of those wheels on my car now. Though I do have MORR's on from before LeMans_Blue taught us about wheels here.

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      04-28-2013, 12:00 AM   #277
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And that is why I have never owned a "FORGED" wheel and probably never will.

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Ok let me set you straight with some facts.......(I know this because when I ordered my 360s shit hit the fan)

.The now owner of ADV1 is Jordan
.The now owner of 360 is Forged Distributing

.The previous owner of 360 was Jordan
Regardless of the owner of the company, the wheels are just plain terrible in quality.

Wheels and tires are the most important thing to any car next to the driver. You put the lives of your friends, family and even kids in danger when you support these kind of companies to continue business.

Just because Jordan is no longer working there, it doesn't mean that the 360forged wheels quality has improved. They are just as bad and unsafe. Not only do you put yourself in danger, but also the general public.
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      04-28-2013, 03:14 AM   #278
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And that is why I have never owned a "FORGED" wheel and probably never will.



Regardless of the owner of the company, the wheels are just plain terrible in quality.

Wheels and tires are the most important thing to any car next to the driver. You put the lives of your friends, family and even kids in danger when you support these kind of companies to continue business.

Just because Jordan is no longer working there, it doesn't mean that the 360forged wheels quality has improved. They are just as bad and unsafe. Not only do you put yourself in danger, but also the general public.
Yes you are right in this matter, but I just wanted to clarify to people about who is who.
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so i have a question, how come ADV.1 is able to put rims on sooo many high end exotics? do these people just not know? or... what? I'm not trying to bash, but this thread seems pretty apparent of their quality, so i'm curious
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so i have a question, how come ADV.1 is able to put rims on sooo many high end exotics? do these people just not know? or... what? I'm not trying to bash, but this thread seems pretty apparent of their quality, so i'm curious
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Yes you are right in this matter, but I just wanted to clarify to people about who is who.
Because ADV and 360forged produce wheels that look good. They don't meet safety standards.

Marketing is everything now a days, perception plays a big role here. People automatically think that the wheels are quality just because Ferrari/Super car owners roll on them. Most super car owners don't even drive their car, surely enough the "safety" of these kinds of wheels can be never tested in real life scenarios by supercar owners.

Forged wheels are like breast implants, sure they look like a million dollars but they will never come close to feeling like the real thing. Silicone or materials used in the breast implant could be fatal to the person in the short or long-run just like using lower grade materials (third world country imports) for forging a rim.

I am not trying to technically "bash" on a company, but I just want to keep the buyers aware of what they are truly getting.



Here we are with some more information to back my claim.

http://www.importgenius.com/importers/cor-llc

http://www.importgenius.com/supplier...yin-industrial

Now you can throw this "proudly made in USA" idea in the trash. Any so called "american made" forged wheel is just as bad as Rota's made in the philippines...

Knowledge is everything in this world, it is what keeps us safe and make the right choices. I hope you guys understand I do love the look of forged wheels, but the quality is what sets me back from actually owning them.
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so i have a question, how come ADV.1 is able to put rims on sooo many high end exotics? do these people just not know? or... what? I'm not trying to bash, but this thread seems pretty apparent of their quality, so i'm curious
Well, they have built up a customer base right from the dealer, they often times have "dealer packages" where exotics come with ADV1s. Their biggest market is in the middle east, which is where most of the cars come from. They have done a wonderful job of marketing themselves as an exclusive brand, which is why and how they can charge that premium price. Same way a gucci shirt is no different than a guilden tee.
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playgroud and hai cheo, both good explanations.

gotta love fake businesses.
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It's a shame that companies like ADV.1, Meisterschaft, Vorsteiner... Completely rip people off with their cheap made products yet admins let them participate in their forums. SMH

As for this subject, a brother said it right here. Do not mess with Tire/Wheel combo, if something goes wrong with any of them the result will be ugly. Always buy things from people who care about their reputation.
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Not sure where most people's frustrations with the wheels comes from. Essentially ALL 'Forged' Wheel companies (short of Japanese/German Companies) come from the same place, MHT/COR. So quality you'll get from ADV1 is no different than 360 Forged/MORR/ISS etc etc etc.
Utter nonsense.

The quality and reliability of any wheel comes from material, manufacturing process, quality assurance, testing and the design (i.e. size, shape, thicknesses, etc.). Any of these can be dominant factors. Just because some of these are common across two different products does not mean all of them are common.
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You know honestly with these 20 and 22 inch wheels and cracks it can be half the manufacturers fault and the owners.

I am thinking a 22 inch rim with a rubber band size tire + bad road conditions anywhere in the world can equal these kinds of cracks. I have seen it in brand new Volk wheels and BBS wheels years back. Forged or not most wheels cannot stand up to this going 100mph and hit a 2-3 inch crack on the freeway or highway. Now this over a year period can crack spokes etc.

We all hope our wheels will hold up but fact of the matter is most wheels will not. Thats reality. Let me guess 20, 25, or 30 series tires?

I am not going to sit here and debate this but just throwing it out there.
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It's a shame that companies like ADV.1, Meisterschaft, Vorsteiner... Completely rip people off with their cheap made products yet admins let them participate in their forums. SMH

As for this subject, a brother said it right here. Do not mess with Tire/Wheel combo, if something goes wrong with any of them the result will be ugly. Always buy things from people who care about their reputation.


Vorsteiner??? Please explain? Or link me to something?
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