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      04-08-2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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Most camber possible stock?

How much camber can I get stock? No camber plates and not lowered.
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How much camber can I get stock? No camber plates and not lowered.
I depends on your specific car. Some ZCP will allow -1.7 but mine would only allow -1.1 on one side and -1.6 on the other.
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      04-08-2013, 04:11 PM   #3
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I depends on your specific car. Some ZCP will allow -1.7 but mine would only allow -1.1 on one side and -1.6 on the other.
yup. I have to wonder about BMW's quality control. My car would fit 295's rear on 19x11 on one side and not the other (exact same ride height L/R). Turned out that the right side had a little bit of fender/liner that protruded farther than the other side, from the factory!

My car got 1.5/1.4 with pins pulled. If you don't know what "pins pulled" means, search that on this forum.
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I pulled the pins and have it all the way over. But haven't had it measured.
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non-zcp, I have -1.4/-1.4 with the pins pulled. I've seen as low as -1.6 for non-zcp. Obviously, with lowering, you can go more negative.
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I pulled the pins and have it all the way over. But haven't had it measured.
IMO, you should not fool around with camber adjustment without having the car aligned. Modifying camber also changes toe settings. Bad toe settings can have a pretty adverse impact on tire wear. Further, you want to ensure that both side have the same camber setting.

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IMO, you should fool around with camber adjustment without having the car aligned. Modifying camber also changes toe settings. Bad toe settings can have a pretty adverse impact on tire wear. Further, you want to ensure that both side have the same camber setting.
Yeah I hear you. Will be taking it in for alignment this week. Was just messing around and curious. Someone told me you can get the camber to -2 on stock suspension and though if so maybe I don't need the camber plates

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Yeah I hear you. Will be taking it in for alignment this week. Was just messing around and curious. Someone told me you can get the camber to -2 on stock suspension and though if so maybe I don't need the camber plates
As others have said, -1.3 to -1.7 is probably the most you will be able to get on stock springs. Camber plates IMO is a must on the E9X. A nice side benefit is that more camber on our cars significantly improves steering feel.
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What's your purpose? I had pins pulled and ended up at -1.5 both sides (zcp) after my first track day. After the second day I ordered Vorshlag camber plates. I think there are a lot of people who go straight to the plates if they're tracking at all. No need to waste your time and money on a pointless alignment if you have track intentions.
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I track often. Just waiting on camber plates which are taking longer than expected and have a track day sun
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What's your purpose? I had pins pulled and ended up at -1.5 both sides (zcp) after my first track day. After the second day I ordered Vorshlag camber plates. I think there are a lot of people who go straight to the plates if they're tracking at all. No need to waste your time and money on a pointless alignment if you have track intentions.
Good advice. I wish I had all of my alignment $ back, probably had 4 or 5 in the past year. Just do it right the first time and run plates. The extra .5-.7 camber or w/e from pins is not that big compared to the camber plates.
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-1.7 is the best I have measured on my car with the nitrogen on the struts set at ~75psi
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-1.7 is the best I have measured on my car with the nitrogen on the struts set at ~75psi
I'm thinking that's not a stock setup if you are measuring N2 pressures, Richbot...
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