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      08-31-2007, 09:49 AM   #23
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just a bit confused.

There are now several test about the m3. More from uk or other countries then from Germany itselfs.

But the only test where the m3 had an acceleration equal to the offical datas from bmw was the german autobild till know. (up to 200 kmh, as far as i know)

So could it be for example that in the uk the right hand driving cars are not specially cars for pressentation, witch maybe do not have the correct performance, or more then the 420 hp. Or were all this magazine test drivers just unable to shift and accelerate correctly the m3.

What do you think

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      08-31-2007, 10:06 AM   #24
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It's just beginning... We've got only 3 real tests with performance numbers done yet. 2 German magazine (AMS, Autobild) and the one from Autocar. All other "test drives" did state the manufacturer figures...

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Well, whatever savings DFI/FSI in the S5 is responsible for are probably offset by the losses due to AWD. And, I belive the S5 is slightly heavier?

Thanks for posting the numbers.
Correct, yet it is still amazing the M3 with it's race bred motor can pull better mileage numbers than an S5.
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Checked the Autobild article again:
Anybody interested which tires the M3 had?

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Checked the Autobild article again:
Anybody interested which tires the M3 had?

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Of course.
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Of course.
Maybe you're willing to guess?

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Maybe you're willing to guess?

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My, you are a tease lately!

I will guess the M was on its standard tires. (Perhaps Autozeitung considers the bespoke Pilot Sport 2s on the new M3 to be sport tires?)
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My, you are a tease lately!

I will guess the M was on its standard tires. (Perhaps Autozeitung considers the bespoke Pilot Sport 2s on the new M3 to be sport tires?)
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Word!

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What the ____ is BMW doing with its test cars? First the non-standard brake pads at the press intro in Spain, and now Cup tires on cars given to magazines for testing (I wonder if the magazine cars had the special brake pads as well).

This is really disappointing. It is one thing to provide a test car with a rarely ordered but still available sport tire option (as with the Audi RS4) or "Nurburgring" package, it is quite another to provide a test car in a configuration which cannot even be otained by retail customers. If something like tires were switched, certainly it is possible other less detectable changes were made as well, such as ECU tuning, weight reduction, etc.

I hope there is an explanation for this that makes sense.
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What the ____ is BMW doing with its test cars? First the non-standard brake pads at the press intro in Spain, and now Cup tires on cars given to magazines for testing (I wonder if the magazine cars had the special brake pads as well).

This is really disappointing. It is one thing to provide a test car with a rarely ordered but still available sport tire option (as with the Audi RS4) or "Nurburgring" package, it is quite another to provide a test car in a configuration which cannot even be otained by retail customers. If something like tires were switched, certainly it is possible other less detectable changes were made as well, such as ECU tuning, weight reduction, etc.

I hope there is an explanation for this that makes sense.
Well it doesn't make sense to me.
BMW have just muddied the waters with this.
The car is being launched in the UK in two days' time and I still don't know whether any of the reviews can be trusted.
If I were from the motoring press, I would have been severely miffed about this too - maybe this has backfired already in some of the reviews.
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