M3 Test in AUTOZEITUNG (against R8 + C6)

Uli_HH · 09-05-2007, 08:09 AM

The german car magazin "AUTOZEITUNG" tested the new M3 against the Audi R8 and the Corvette C6.
The M3 wins overall with 3012pts to 2849 for R8 and 2684 for C6. In the driving dynamic - sektion the M3 ended with the same points as the R8...he is better than the R8 between the pylons 70,4km/h to 66,8km/h (with 19") really good performance for an 4-seat car against an supersportscar

In the same issue AUTOZEITUNG shows all new BMW´s from now to 2011...and as an real good news for me stated that the M3 Sedan comes End of 2007 (in europe).:rocks:

Greetings Uli_HH

GregW / Oregon · 09-05-2007, 08:41 AM

Haven't seen the test, but I like this feature on their website! (NOT WORK SAFE):

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74671_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74679_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74691_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74691_450.jpg

ILC32 · 09-05-2007, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uli_HH

The german car magazin "AUTOZEITUNG" tested the new M3 against the Audi R8 and the Corvette C6.
The M3 wins overall with 3012pts to 2849 for R8 and 2684 for C6. In the driving dynamic - sektion the M3 ended with the same points as the R8...he is better than the R8 between the pylons 70,4km/h to 66,8km/h (with 19") really good performance for an 4-seat car against an supersportscar

In the same issue AUTOZEITUNG shows all new BMW´s from now to 2011...and as an real good news for me stated that the M3 Sedan comes End of 2007 (in europe).:rocks:

Greetings Uli_HH

Oh my god.

mkoesel · 09-05-2007, 08:57 AM

Holy NSFW Batman! Might want to put a warning on that GregW. (But thanks for posting

)

So it beat the C6 and R8 in their test? Its hard to believe the M3 would be faster than those two on the average track. When you factor is using it as a daily driver it definitely has the advantage though.

carnuts3 · 09-05-2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Haven't seen the test, but I like this feature on their website! (NOT WORK SAFE):

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74671_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74679_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74691_450.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/74691_450.jpg

Take one of these over the new M3 anyday.

savage.ulm1 · 09-05-2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uli_HH

The german car magazin "AUTOZEITUNG" tested the new M3 against the Audi R8 and the Corvette C6.
The M3 wins overall with 3012pts to 2849 for R8 and 2684 for C6. In the driving dynamic - sektion the M3 ended with the same points as the R8...he is better than the R8 between the pylons 70,4km/h to 66,8km/h (with 19") really good performance for an 4-seat car against an supersportscar

In the same issue AUTOZEITUNG shows all new BMW´s from now to 2011...and as an real good news for me stated that the M3 Sedan comes End of 2007 (in europe).:rocks:

Greetings Uli_HH

Can you give any numbers for 0-100 km-h 0-200 km-h? and brake distance?
many thanks for this exciting new...

Uli_HH · 09-05-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

Can you give any numbers for 0-100 km-h 0-200 km-h? and brake distance?
many thanks for this exciting new...

Update:

0-100km/h 4,8s
0-200km/h 15,2s

60-100km/h 2,3s
80-120km/h 3,0s

100-0km/h cold/hot 35,6m/34,9m

southlight · 09-05-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

Can you give any numbers for 0-100 km-h 0-200 km-h? and brake distance?
many thanks for this exciting new...

0-100 km/h 4.8s
0-200 km/h 15.2s

brake distance : 35.6m (cold) - 34.9m (warm)

Best regards, south

savage.ulm1 · 09-05-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by southlight

0-100 km/h 4.8s
0-200 km/h 15.2s

brake distance : 35.6m (cold) - 34.9m (warm)

Best regards, south

Hi South...how are you?
I was told from "them" at Garching...wait for and you will see the 0-200Km/h time!!
I remember that smiling face...and now I start to feel more and more excited.
15,2 sec are fantastic numbers!!!!!!!do you agree???

bye bye now

ILC32 · 09-05-2007, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uli_HH

Update:

0-100km/h 4,8s
0-200km/h 15,2s

60-100km/h 2,3s
80-120km/h 3,0s

100-0km/h cold/hot 35,6m/34,9m

Thanks Uli (and South)! What numbers did the R8 and C6 achieve?

ChitownM3 · 09-05-2007, 10:04 AM

I need to know, was the car faster than the c6 between the pylons?!?! All my friends drive Corvettes and they are pissed that I'm getting an m3! This would be great news if it was faster!

southlight · 09-05-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

Hi South...how are you?
I was told from "them" at Garching...wait for and you will see the 0-200Km/h time!!
I remember that smiling face...and now I start to feel more and more excited.
15,2 sec are fantastic numbers!!!!!!!do you agree???

bye bye now

I'm fine...how are you?
These numbers are really impressive. Only 10 days left 'till German launch...

Best regards, south

southlight · 09-05-2007, 10:11 AM

R8: 4.4s - 15.2s - 35.0m/35.2m
C6: 4.8s - 15.6s - 35.9m/36.0m

Best regards, south

ChitownM3 · 09-05-2007, 10:17 AM

4.8s is pretty slow isn't it?

ChitownM3 · 09-05-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

R8: 4.4s - 15.2s - 35.0m/35.2m
C6: 4.8s - 15.6s - 35.9m/36.0m

Best regards, south

Are these numbers from the same magazine, or are they previous statistics?

ILC32 · 09-05-2007, 10:22 AM

Thanks, South. Those figures put the M3 times into perspective. The 0-200 time is impressive indeed. I may as well press my luck now and also ask for comparative slalom and circuit times if the review has those. . .

savage.ulm1 · 09-05-2007, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

R8: 4.4s - 15.2s - 35.0m/35.2m
C6: 4.8s - 15.6s - 35.9m/36.0m

Best regards, south

Last thing...for now:-)
how is the reputation in Germany of that magazine? are those numbers true in your experience?can you confirm that the numbers of the other two cars, already tested by many magazines in Germany and not only, are similar to precedent reports??this could mean that also the test of their M3 is reliable.

regards

ILC32 · 09-05-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by southlight

R8: 4.4s - 15.2s - 35.0m/35.2m
C6: 4.8s - 15.6s - 35.9m/36.0m

Best regards, south

Interesting that for the R8 and C6 the best braking was achieved when cold, but the M3 had its best braking when hot. I wonder if the pads on the M3 were standard. Certainly race pads perform better when hot.

southlight · 09-05-2007, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChitownM3

Are these numbers from the same magazine, or are they previous statistics?

They compared these 3 cars in this test. But I don't know if they did all these performance tests at the same time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILC32

Thanks, South. Those figures put the M3 times into perspective. The 0-200 time is impressive indeed. I may as well press my luck now and also ask for comparative slalom and circuit times if the review has those. . .

Sure:
18m Slalom:
R8: 66.8 km/h
M3: 70.4km/h
C6: 62.3 km/h

Handling course:
R8: 1:38,9
M3: 1:40,1
C6: 1:44,2

Best regards, south

ILC32 · 09-05-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

They compared these 3 cars in this test. But I don't know if they did all these performance tests at the same time.

Sure:
18m Slalom:
R8: 66.8 km/h
M3: 70.4km/h
C6: 62.3 km/h

Handling course:
R8: 1:38,9
M3: 1:40,1
C6: 1:44,2

Best regards, south

Many thanks.

The comparative laptime is surprising given the results of the slalom, braking and accelleration times. One last question -- does the article show the actual as tested weights for each car?

southlight · 09-05-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

Last thing...for now:-)
how is the reputation in Germany of that magazine? are those numbers true in your experience?can you confirm that the numbers of the other two cars, already tested by many magazines in Germany and not only, are similar to precedent reports??this could mean that also the test of their M3 is reliable.

regards

It's not AMS or SportAuto, but it's OK. My personal opinion is that it's a magazine worth reading most of the time. But usually the performance numbers of AUTOZeitung are better than AMS for example... Also the acceleration numbers for the R8 are about the best I can remember...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILC32

Interesting that for the R8 and C6 the best braking was achieved when cold, but the M3 had its best braking when hot. I wonder if the pads on the M3 were standard. Certainly race pads perform better when hot.

All I say is: CUP

Best regards, south

southlight · 09-05-2007, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILC32

Many thanks.

The comparative laptime is surprising given the results of the slalom, braking and accelleration times. One last question -- does the article show the actual as tested weights for each car?

Oh, yeah:

R8: 1661 kg

M3: 1626 kg
C6: 1545 kg

Best regards, south

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ChitownM3 Lieutenant Drives: 2001 SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Burbs of Chicago Posts: 489 iTrader: (0)	I need to know, was the car faster than the c6 between the pylons?!?! All my friends drive Corvettes and they are pissed that I'm getting an m3! This would be great news if it was faster!
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southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,747 iTrader: (0)	R8: 4.4s - 15.2s - 35.0m/35.2m C6: 4.8s - 15.6s - 35.9m/36.0m Best regards, south
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ChitownM3 Lieutenant Drives: 2001 SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Burbs of Chicago Posts: 489 iTrader: (0)	4.8s is pretty slow isn't it?
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09-05-2007, 10:22 AM	#16
ILC32 Lieutenant Drives: 1993 Porsche RSA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 580 iTrader: (0)	Thanks, South. Those figures put the M3 times into perspective. The 0-200 time is impressive indeed. I may as well press my luck now and also ask for comparative slalom and circuit times if the review has those. . .
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