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flipm3 · 03-14-2013, 09:39 AM

Damn NikB316....those are some BIG numbers!!!

When you get a chance, I'm sure many of us would love to see the graphs with torque, RPM, AFR, etc.

AWESOME work AA, MaxPSI, and NikB316!! I can't wait to see some kill vids

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-14-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by flipm3

Damn NikB316....those are some BIG numbers!!!

When you get a chance, I'm sure many of us would love to see the graphs with torque, RPM, AFR, etc.

AWESOME work AA, MaxPSI, and NikB316!! I can't wait to see some kill vids

Unfortunately it looks like the shop did not connect an rpm signal. Torque will not show up with out an rpm reading.

His tq should be identical to ours just like his hp curve is.

Lesson learned for Nik

akh23456 · 03-14-2013, 10:08 AM

damn thats a sick looking curve and awesome Power and smoothing 0 ...gotta get a ride in this beast soon.

NikB316 · 03-14-2013, 10:31 AM

Wow the dyno guys really messed this up! They didn't record RPM / TQ! Who does that??? They open at 1pm and I'm going to call them - they really owe me an hour of dyno time. I didn't even know this was possible as it's never been an option on any other dyno! Very pissed. I don't want to get into nitpicking but they also failed to record the run prior to my highest. Guy didn't press the "record" button. Went through the dyno cycle for nada that run! SMH! They knew I wanted to compare to my old dyno and Active's dyno which had torque.

Anyway guys, here is my MaximumPSI dyno and theres a video shown on the previous page. Obviously actual numbers are better than estimating, but I think it's quite safe to say the manufacturer claims are on point

I'll try to get on the DynoJet again but no promises...Thrilled with my numbers but pissed at CLM!

NikB316 · 03-14-2013, 10:32 AM

Thanks. Definitely bro - weather is nicer now so I'll definitely hit you up!

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Originally Posted by akh23456

damn thats a sick looking curve and awesome Power and smoothing 0 ...gotta get a ride in this beast soon.

NikB316 · 03-14-2013, 10:52 AM

Well just found out from a friend that they don't have the input for BMW/European cars to do the RPM reading. They could have told me as I did show them the dyno I was using as a comparison point but such is life. There was a shop in Garwood, NJ that had a DynoJet (20 min away) but they are MIA. They are also more of Honda tuner so might run into the same problem. I think the nearest DynoJet that could do this is in Conneticut. Will get there at some point but not sure when...

EDIT: Spoke to the shop themselves and they goofed. Didn't connect it. They acknowledged the mistake and is giving me some free runs tomorrow or Monday. We'll have to see what works!

NikB316 · 03-14-2013, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipm3

Damn NikB316....those are some BIG numbers!!!

When you get a chance, I'm sure many of us would love to see the graphs with torque, RPM, AFR, etc.

AWESOME work AA, MaxPSI, and NikB316!! I can't wait to see some kill vids

Thank you sir! Since the shop is correcting their wrong I'll have some new runs hopefully tomorrow. The kit is really strong and has been performing consistently on the dyno. I'll include as much as possible with those runs as there's not very much here besides what's posted.

JR M3 · 03-14-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NikB316

Wow the dyno guys really messed this up! They didn't record RPM / TQ! Who does that??? They open at 1pm and I'm going to call them - they really owe me an hour of dyno time. I didn't even know this was possible as it's never been an option on any other dyno! Very pissed. I don't want to get into nitpicking but they also failed to record the run prior to my highest. Guy didn't press the "record" button. Went through the dyno cycle for nada that run! SMH! They knew I wanted to compare to my old dyno and Active's dyno which had torque.

Anyway guys, here is my MaximumPSI dyno and theres a video shown on the previous page. Obviously actual numbers are better than estimating, but I think it's quite safe to say the manufacturer claims are on point

I'll try to get on the DynoJet again but no promises...Thrilled with my numbers but pissed at CLM!

No power curve there, its practically a straight line

NikB316 · 03-15-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JR M3

No power curve there, its practically a straight line

Yessir...no smoothing either

. Hoping to be able to get on the DynoJet tonight to get y'all some torque figures but waiting to see if the shop's schedule clears out. If not it will have to be Monday or so. Will have a solid write up on the upgrade with all data after I get the new dyno done.

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-29-2013, 08:33 AM

Our Greece Dealer Cougar Motorsports puts our level 2 to the test. It passed with flying colors putting down 545 whp. Another Spot on hp rating from our Gen 2 kits.

Click http://translate.googleusercontent.c...d_f1MEs33DkhBg

NikB316 · 03-29-2013, 08:51 AM

Wow! Making big numbers across the globe

. Any idea what kind of dyno they used?

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-29-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NikB316

Wow! Making big numbers across the globe

. Any idea what kind of dyno they used?

Its a Dynomite Dynometer. Check the link for more information

VCMpower · 03-29-2013, 01:07 PM

This is great Andrew! Heading to Dyno Dynamics again next week. As far as your spot on comment, here is what my gen 1 level 2 did overall. quote from Karl "the new power at the flywheel would be 490/325X stk power which is rated at 414, so 490/325X414=624 HP at flywheel." That was spot on!! My mufflers are taking a beating right now

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-29-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VCMpower

This is great Andrew! Heading to Dyno Dynamics again next week. As far as your spot on comment, here is what my gen 1 level 2 did overall. quote from Karl "the new power at the flywheel would be 490/325X stk power which is rated at 414, so 490/325X414=624 HP at flywheel." That was spot on!! My mufflers are taking a beating right now

Have you dynoed the level 3 or will this be the first ?

VCMpower · 03-29-2013, 01:53 PM

First smack down! I wanted to put a good amount of mileage on ahead of this. Looking forward to it. It is so strong right now

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Have you dynoed the level 3 or will this be the first ?

NikB316 · 03-29-2013, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCMpower

This is great Andrew! Heading to Dyno Dynamics again next week. As far as your spot on comment, here is what my gen 1 level 2 did overall. quote from Karl "the new power at the flywheel would be 490/325X stk power which is rated at 414, so 490/325X414=624 HP at flywheel." That was spot on!! My mufflers are taking a beating right now

Very nice! There's a guy in the car for sale section that posted his dyno with his AA Gen 1 Level 2 kit and put down 525 on the DynoJet! I wish I had a chance to hop on one with my old kit as the "heartbreaker" dyno at my local shop read 440 on my old kit. It also topped off at 527 on my new kit which put down 586 on the DynoJet. Using the same ratio it comes out to 489. Not too far off from your 490...

Enough calculations. Enjoy your extra ~100whp - really turns the beast into well, a faster beast

Sirius Black · 03-30-2013, 12:09 AM

I think my stage 2 gen 2 kit shipped today. This is going to be worse than a kid waiting for Christmas morning to come.

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-30-2013, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirius Black

I think my stage 2 gen 2 kit shipped today. This is going to be worse than a kid waiting for Christmas morning to come.

And you just got into the 400 whp club.. The 500 club is much more fun i assure you.

Sirius Black · 03-30-2013, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

And you just got into the 400 whp club too.. The 500 club is much more fun i assure you.

Andrew, can you pm me a tracking number when you have one?

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 03-30-2013, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirius Black

Andrew, can you pm me a tracking number when you have one?

Should of went to your email. It will have to be monday when we are open.

ksflatlander · 03-30-2013, 11:38 AM

Seriously considering adding a stage 2 kit to my DCT M3. I'm wondering if any stats have been compiled now that there are lots of cars out there with the kits installed.

How many kits have been installed on both fully manual and DCT? Versus - how many serious engine failures? How many serious DCT failures?

Like many decisions there is a risk/reward factor to evaluate. What data is out there to do this? Reward is the increase in power, the risk is no warranty on extremely expensive engines and in my case with a DCT, an expensive tranny. Would just like data to evaluate that ratio prior to jumping in.

Are any of these numbers available?

VCMpower · 03-30-2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksflatlander

Seriously considering adding a stage 2 kit to my DCT M3. I'm wondering if any stats have been compiled now that there are lots of cars out there with the kits installed.

How many kits have been installed on both fully manual and DCT? Versus - how many serious engine failures? How many serious DCT failures?

Like many decisions there is a risk/reward factor to evaluate. What data is out there to do this? Reward is the increase in power, the risk is no warranty on extremely expensive engines and in my case with a DCT, an expensive tranny. Would just like data to evaluate that ratio prior to jumping in.

Are any of these numbers available?

I have installed gen 1 level 2/meth kits on both 6mt and DCT . No issues on either trans or engines. 490whp on dyno dynamics was my number. 325whp stock. Warranty is a dealer discretion matter.

03-14-2013, 09:39 AM	#111
flipm3 E46 + E90 Drives: E46 M3 + E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,486 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	Damn NikB316....those are some BIG numbers!!! When you get a chance, I'm sure many of us would love to see the graphs with torque, RPM, AFR, etc. AWESOME work AA, MaxPSI, and NikB316!! I can't wait to see some kill vids __________________ 2002 E46 M3 6MT \| Jet Black . Black Nappa \| My Build Thread 2009 E90 M3 DCT \| Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth

03-14-2013, 10:08 AM	#113
akh23456 All I do is Win... Eat Race Sleep Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 1,893 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2009 M3 [4.28] 2013 f10 M5 [0.00]	damn thats a sick looking curve and awesome Power and smoothing 0 ...gotta get a ride in this beast soon. __________________ F10 M5 : ??? E90 M3 11.2 126.7 with a 1.8 60ft Street Tires

03-14-2013, 10:31 AM	#114
NikB316 Lieutenant Drives: '11 E92 M3 w/ AA S/C Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset County Posts: 473 iTrader: (3)	Wow the dyno guys really messed this up! They didn't record RPM / TQ! Who does that??? They open at 1pm and I'm going to call them - they really owe me an hour of dyno time. I didn't even know this was possible as it's never been an option on any other dyno! Very pissed. I don't want to get into nitpicking but they also failed to record the run prior to my highest. Guy didn't press the "record" button. Went through the dyno cycle for nada that run! SMH! They knew I wanted to compare to my old dyno and Active's dyno which had torque. Anyway guys, here is my MaximumPSI dyno and theres a video shown on the previous page. Obviously actual numbers are better than estimating, but I think it's quite safe to say the manufacturer claims are on point I'll try to get on the DynoJet again but no promises...Thrilled with my numbers but pissed at CLM! Attached Images __________________ 2011 Space Grey E92 M3 Active Autowerke Generation 2 Level 3 Supercharger 586whp 398wtq SAE BMW M Performance Exhaust \| ACM Test Pipes \| Brembo BBK \| Defiv Rear Diff Brace \| Volk TE37SL Vorsteiner CF Front Spoiler, Rear Diffuser II & Boot Lid Gintani CF Side & Rear Skirts \| ACM Custom Headlights

03-14-2013, 10:52 AM	#116
NikB316 Lieutenant Drives: '11 E92 M3 w/ AA S/C Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset County Posts: 473 iTrader: (3)	Well just found out from a friend that they don't have the input for BMW/European cars to do the RPM reading. They could have told me as I did show them the dyno I was using as a comparison point but such is life. There was a shop in Garwood, NJ that had a DynoJet (20 min away) but they are MIA. They are also more of Honda tuner so might run into the same problem. I think the nearest DynoJet that could do this is in Conneticut. Will get there at some point but not sure when... EDIT: Spoke to the shop themselves and they goofed. Didn't connect it. They acknowledged the mistake and is giving me some free runs tomorrow or Monday. We'll have to see what works! __________________ 2011 Space Grey E92 M3 Active Autowerke Generation 2 Level 3 Supercharger 586whp 398wtq SAE BMW M Performance Exhaust \| ACM Test Pipes \| Brembo BBK \| Defiv Rear Diff Brace \| Volk TE37SL Vorsteiner CF Front Spoiler, Rear Diffuser II & Boot Lid Gintani CF Side & Rear Skirts \| ACM Custom Headlights Last edited by NikB316; 03-14-2013 at 11:31 AM.

03-29-2013, 08:33 AM	#120
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 135i N55 Fbo Meth + E85 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Miami Fl Posts: 2,346 iTrader: (3)	Our Greece Dealer Cougar Motorsports puts our level 2 to the test. It passed with flying colors putting down 545 whp. Another Spot on hp rating from our Gen 2 kits. Click http://translate.googleusercontent.c...d_f1MEs33DkhBg __________________

03-29-2013, 08:51 AM	#121
NikB316 Lieutenant Drives: '11 E92 M3 w/ AA S/C Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somerset County Posts: 473 iTrader: (3)	Wow! Making big numbers across the globe . Any idea what kind of dyno they used? __________________ 2011 Space Grey E92 M3 Active Autowerke Generation 2 Level 3 Supercharger 586whp 398wtq SAE BMW M Performance Exhaust \| ACM Test Pipes \| Brembo BBK \| Defiv Rear Diff Brace \| Volk TE37SL Vorsteiner CF Front Spoiler, Rear Diffuser II & Boot Lid Gintani CF Side & Rear Skirts \| ACM Custom Headlights

03-29-2013, 01:07 PM	#123
VCMpower Captain Drives: 2010 Dakar Edition M3-all ops Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Victoria B.C. Posts: 643 iTrader: (0)	This is great Andrew! Heading to Dyno Dynamics again next week. As far as your spot on comment, here is what my gen 1 level 2 did overall. quote from Karl "the new power at the flywheel would be 490/325X stk power which is rated at 414, so 490/325X414=624 HP at flywheel." That was spot on!! My mufflers are taking a beating right now __________________ Active Autowerke GEN 2 Level 3 591whp 410tq(@7500rpm) Dyno Dynamics 8% correction

03-30-2013, 12:09 AM	#127
Sirius Black Private Drives: 2009 E90 M3 6sp man Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	I think my stage 2 gen 2 kit shipped today. This is going to be worse than a kid waiting for Christmas morning to come.

03-30-2013, 11:38 AM	#131
ksflatlander Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 256 iTrader: (0)	Reliability stats Seriously considering adding a stage 2 kit to my DCT M3. I'm wondering if any stats have been compiled now that there are lots of cars out there with the kits installed. How many kits have been installed on both fully manual and DCT? Versus - how many serious engine failures? How many serious DCT failures? Like many decisions there is a risk/reward factor to evaluate. What data is out there to do this? Reward is the increase in power, the risk is no warranty on extremely expensive engines and in my case with a DCT, an expensive tranny. Would just like data to evaluate that ratio prior to jumping in. Are any of these numbers available? __________________ . 2011 E90, Melbourne Red, Bamboo, DCT, Premium, Comfort, Cold, Enhanced Stereo, Apps "I don't drive fast, I just fly low."

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