Can I use a tune for coding stuffs?

Veritable · 03-13-2013, 05:03 PM

This is a follow-up to my thread about installing aftermarket seats here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=811269

So, rather than losing money in order to trade my car in for a CTS-V, I've decided to take that money and spend it on my car instead.

First up is to replace the front seats with a pair of Recaros. In order to do that properly, I will need to do "coding" in order to:

#1 remove the warnings about the lack of seat airbags, and more importantly

#2 make the passenger seat occupancy sensor be subjugated to the seatbelt rather than the missing seat occupancy sensor.

However, since the eventual goal for the car is to put an ESS supercharger kit into it, I'm wondering if it is possible for an ESS NA Tune to do these kind of "coding" stuffs. That makes more sense to me financially, since it looks like I can save a little bit of $$$ by having the Tune + E-Flash cable in place when I'm ready to go FI.

Or is a "tune" just for ECU modding only and will have nothing to do with the car's electronics?

Just trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, is all

mkPOTO · 03-13-2013, 05:06 PM

The purpose of the cables is just for tune, they do not have a function to code anything else out. If you are looking to get recaros EAS/MS sells a module that will work for you.

VCMpower · 03-13-2013, 05:21 PM

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ROB_S2K · 03-13-2013, 05:33 PM

Mike can def code those out remotely

THE TECH · 03-14-2013, 09:49 AM

We can definitely help you out.

To answer your question though, a tune and it's cable cannot do any sort of coding on the car. They are completely separate operations.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like more info.

happos2 · 03-14-2013, 10:13 AM

As others have stated above:

Tuning is for performance / drivability
-Vanos reprograming
-redline movements
-speed limiter removed
-fuel to air ratio
-cam positioning

Coding is for functional requirements / aesthetics
-mirrors automatically fold up
-iDrive warning no more
-seat belt warning gone

Two different animals that are done two different ways, so no, the Tune does not include coding.

Veritable · 03-14-2013, 12:12 PM

Rats, thanks for the answers guys, I was hoping I will be able to save some $$$ by having everything planned out and avoid redundant spending. Guess ECU and eletronics are separate after all.

In that case I will save the tune until I get the FI kit. I want to keep the drivetrain warranty for as long as possible :-)

Thanks again guys, and I'll be in touch with a remote coding vendor when my seats get here ;-)

03-13-2013, 05:03 PM	#1
Veritable Private First Class Drives: '13 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 183 iTrader: (0)	Can I use a tune for coding stuffs? This is a follow-up to my thread about installing aftermarket seats here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=811269 So, rather than losing money in order to trade my car in for a CTS-V, I've decided to take that money and spend it on my car instead. First up is to replace the front seats with a pair of Recaros. In order to do that properly, I will need to do "coding" in order to: #1 remove the warnings about the lack of seat airbags, and more importantly #2 make the passenger seat occupancy sensor be subjugated to the seatbelt rather than the missing seat occupancy sensor. However, since the eventual goal for the car is to put an ESS supercharger kit into it, I'm wondering if it is possible for an ESS NA Tune to do these kind of "coding" stuffs. That makes more sense to me financially, since it looks like I can save a little bit of $$$ by having the Tune + E-Flash cable in place when I'm ready to go FI. Or is a "tune" just for ECU modding only and will have nothing to do with the car's electronics? Just trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, is all
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03-13-2013, 05:21 PM	#3
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ROB_S2K Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2012 LSB E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,527 iTrader: (2)	Mike can def code those out remotely __________________ 2012 \| Laguna Seca Blue \| Rust Brown \| Individual \| 6MT

03-14-2013, 09:49 AM	#5
THE TECH BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 11,924 iTrader: (39)	We can definitely help you out. To answer your question though, a tune and it's cable cannot do any sort of coding on the car. They are completely separate operations. Feel free to PM me if you'd like more info. __________________ Check us out on Facebook at BPMsportLabs

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03-13-2013, 05:06 PM	#2
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03-14-2013, 10:13 AM	#6
happos2 Dinkle Berries Drives: Gray E92 M3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 359 iTrader: (2)	As others have stated above: Tuning is for performance / drivability -Vanos reprograming -redline movements -speed limiter removed -fuel to air ratio -cam positioning Coding is for functional requirements / aesthetics -mirrors automatically fold up -iDrive warning no more -seat belt warning gone Two different animals that are done two different ways, so no, the Tune does not include coding.

03-14-2013, 12:12 PM	#7
Veritable Private First Class Drives: '13 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 183 iTrader: (0)	Rats, thanks for the answers guys, I was hoping I will be able to save some $$$ by having everything planned out and avoid redundant spending. Guess ECU and eletronics are separate after all. In that case I will save the tune until I get the FI kit. I want to keep the drivetrain warranty for as long as possible :-) Thanks again guys, and I'll be in touch with a remote coding vendor when my seats get here ;-)