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      03-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #1
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Any of the S/C kits out there have a CARB exemption?

Just wondering...seems to be a pain to have the car smogged every few years and having to deal with this.

In Cali we are suppose to do just a OBDII check to see if all readiness codes are green with no sniffer. Don't know if this won't preclude them from opening the hood and seeing a big old huffer under there.

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No kits are gonna pass smog man
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      03-11-2013, 09:52 AM   #4
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None will pass.

None of the sellers for BMWs seem to be at all interested in making a setup. Very low production numbers to make it worth the extreme cost.
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Not going to happen for me then..every few years to uninstal,l reinstall..not worth it.

Thats where you got to give credit where credit is due. Ford Racing Parts sells CARB exempt blowers for the Mustang GT. Full warranty for 3 years and it can be smogged.

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Not going to happen for me then..every few years to uninstal,l reinstall..not worth it.

Thats where you got to give credit where credit is due. Ford Racing Parts sells CARB exempt blowers for the Mustang GT. Full warranty for 3 years and it can be smogged.

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That's true. Good point
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Not going to happen for me then..every few years to uninstal,l reinstall..not worth it.

Thats where you got to give credit where credit is due. Ford Racing Parts sells CARB exempt blowers for the Mustang GT. Full warranty for 3 years and it can be smogged.

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Yup, give credit to Weistec. Their kits for the M156 are 50 state CARB exempt.
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I wish BMW would do something like this..

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12402

This one has no warranty, you have to downgrade to 524hp. However, it is 50 state smog legal.

Not to mention only $7500.00 MSRP and can be had from a dealer for under $7k.

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I wish BMW would do something like this..

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12402

This one has no warranty, you have to downgrade to 524hp. However, it is 50 state smog legal.

Not to mention only $7500.00 MSRP and can be had from a dealer for under $7k.

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It's all about volume of sales. Look at the number of Mustangs vs. M3's. It's also why on a car like my old Nissan 350Z, I could buy fully forged 19 lb NISMO wheels for $525 each.

FWIW, the American muscle aftermarket scene is HUGE compared to the modding of high-end german cars.
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None of the sellers for BMWs seem to be at all interested in making a setup. Very low production numbers to make it worth the extreme cost.
Check out Weistec. I think there are more VT1 M3's out there than Stage 1 + 2 + 3... Weistec cars out there. Yet, Wiestec's kits can pass smog. When i took my Ferrari to dealer for service, there was a SC'd Ferrari 599. Novitec Rosso has sold less than 20 kits, and amazingly enough the kit cost is not alot more than what G-Power asks for their S85 kit. And unlike the G-Power, your Novitec Rosso Ferrari can pass any tests.

You are in the BMW tuning scene yourself. You know how shady it is. The low production number excuse is just meaningless when you consider the fact that M3 sc kits costs a whole lot more than what a similar kit for a Mustang for example costs.
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It's all about volume of sales. Look at the number of Mustangs vs. M3's. It's also why on a car like my old Nissan 350Z, I could buy fully forged 19 lb NISMO wheels for $525 each.

FWIW, the American muscle aftermarket scene is HUGE compared to the modding of high-end german cars.
Agreed, but there is also a marque factor. The fact its for a BMW it should cost more mentality. I mean a lot of these companies are using the same blower that US muscle uses. Such as the Vortech Strim which has been around since the mid 90s.

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Yup, give credit to Weistec. Their kits for the M156 are 50 state CARB exempt.
Yes, agreed. Unfortunately they don't make kits for BMW M3's.
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Check out Weistec. I think there are more VT1 M3's out there than Stage 1 + 2 + 3... Weistec cars out there. Yet, Wiestec's kits can pass smog. When i took my Ferrari to dealer for service, there was a SC'd Ferrari 599. Novitec Rosso has sold less than 20 kits, and amazingly enough the kit cost is not alot more than what G-Power asks for their S85 kit. And unlike the G-Power, your Novitec Rosso Ferrari can pass any tests.

You are in the BMW tuning scene yourself. You know how shady it is. The low production number excuse is just meaningless when you consider the fact that M3 sc kits costs a whole lot more than what a similar kit for a Mustang for example costs.
Only the entry level stage 1 kit they sell is CARB, if you want the stage 2 or 3 they are not. CARB would be nice on all products for CA customers but it is soo easy to get around it I don't think it is really much of an issue. There are thousands of modified cars in CA that should not pass inspection that do.
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Only the entry level stage 1 kit they sell is CARB, if you want the stage 2 or 3 they are not. CARB would be nice on all products for CA customers but it is soo easy to get around it I don't think it is really much of an issue. There are thousands of modified cars in CA that should not pass inspection that do.
I agree, its just when it comes to the blower its not so easily removed in a few hours like you can a xpipe.

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What if I were to keep the stock x-pipes with the stock cats?

I will be going with a VT2-585 because I think I prefer the peace of mind that comes with the intercooler. However, I've had the displeasure of driving behind catless cars, and I'd rather not put others in that situation.

I don't mind if I'll be losing 30-50bhp because of that, because my ultimate goal is to equal or just beat an LSA-powered 6MT CTS-V in straight-line performance. With a DCT, even a VT1 kit will do that I'm sure.

So, how will smog / OBD check react to a supercharged car running on software tune and stock cats? Up here I think they are getting rid of all sniffers and just doing OBD code reading now.
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What if I were to keep the stock x-pipes with the stock cats?

I will be going with a VT2-585 because I think I prefer the peace of mind that comes with the intercooler. However, I've had the displeasure of driving behind catless cars, and I'd rather not put others in that situation.

I don't mind if I'll be losing 30-50bhp because of that, because my ultimate goal is to equal or just beat an LSA-powered 6MT CTS-V in straight-line performance. With a DCT, even a VT1 kit will do that I'm sure.

So, how will smog / OBD check react to a supercharged car running on software tune and stock cats? Up here I think they are getting rid of all sniffers and just doing OBD code reading now.
You might get by as long as Canada doesn't have any kind of visual check.
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I agree, its just when it comes to the blower its not so easily removed in a few hours like you can a xpipe.

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I dunno, man. Having to take it off every couple years doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal, especially if done over a weekend. If I lived in CA, that wouldn't deter me.
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I wish BMW would do something like this..

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12402

This one has no warranty, you have to downgrade to 524hp. However, it is 50 state smog legal.

Not to mention only $7500.00 MSRP and can be had from a dealer for under $7k.

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Dave,

Im in the same boat as you. I would go forced induction if there was a CARB exempt kit. Its definitely not worth $1k to uninstall and reinstall the kit every 2 years. I wish Downing Atlanta made CARB exempt SC's for BMW.
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I wish BMW would do something like this..

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12402

This one has no warranty, you have to downgrade to 524hp. However, it is 50 state smog legal.

Not to mention only $7500.00 MSRP and can be had from a dealer for under $7k.

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Dave,

Im in the same boat as you. I would go forced induction if there was a CARB exempt kit. Its definitely not worth $1k to uninstall and reinstall the kit every 2 years. I wish Downing Atlanta made CARB exempt SC's for BMW.
Since when do we have to smog every 2 years? I don't remember the last time I had to smog a car.
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