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      02-18-2013, 08:59 AM   #1
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The all new Chevy SS posts 415 horse power, which is just as much as the current M3, but early test result indicate it can't break 5.0 in a 0-60 test.

Typical American engineering.
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Typical American engineering.
I thought it was engineered/built in Australia?
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The all new Chevy SS posts 415 horse power, which is just as much as the current M3, but early test result indicate it can't break 5.0 in a 0-60 test.

Typical American engineering.

There are no early tests that I've seen. Chevy "predicts" 5 seconds. Motor Trend predicts 4.5. And $38,000... You need to compare it to the 328 if you just care about 0-60

Now let's compare the Camaro ZL1 to the M3.

Even the $40,000 Camaro SS 1LE is faster around a track than the M5 or M6
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There are no early tests that I've seen. Chevy "predicts" 5 seconds. Motor Trend predicts 4.5. And $38,000... You need to compare it to the 328 if you just care about 0-60

Now let's compare the Camaro ZL1 to the M3.

Even the $40,000 Camaro SS 1LE is faster around a track than the M5 or M6
If you're only talking about raw speed, there are many other cars out there capable of faster lap times or drag times. But none of them offer the pedigree and feel of a BMW. I certainly wouldn't trade either of mine for any American iron.
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The all new Chevy SS posts 415 horse power, which is just as much as the current M3, but early test result indicate it can't break 5.0 in a 0-60 test.

Typical American engineering.
Where did you get your info? The car engineered in Australia and there have been no tests that I've seen so far.

I can tell you the G8 was almost as good as any BMW Ive driven and the Camaro SS 1LE and Cadillac ATS sound amazing in their reviews. I love BMWs but Im not full of kool-aid either.
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I thought it was engineered/built in Australia?
Yes.
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I assume it's still a fat whale, like the Camaro and G8?
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I assume it's still a fat whale, like the Camaro and G8?
As opposed to the lightweights from BMW

Camaro SS
Length: 190.4 in
Width: 75.5 in
Wt: 3780 (according to Edmunds)

G8
Length: 196.1 in
Width: 74.8 in
Wt:3885 (according to Edmunds)

F30 (335i)
Length - 182.5 in
Width - 71.3 in
Wt:3545 (according to BMWUSA)

F10 (550i)
Length - 192.8 in
Width - 73.2 in
Wt:4365 (according to BMWUSA)
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As opposed to the lightweights from BMW

F10 (550i)
Length - 192.8 in
Width - 73.2 in
Wt:4365 (according to BMWUSA)
Ouch, but the F10 is a porker, isn't it?

I must have had my facts wrong, I thought I recalled the old G8 GXP being over 4k pounds. Of course the weight you listed is probably the V6, so the SS is still probably a pig and a half.

The Corvette has its weight in check, as does the ATS, so it's strange that the Camaro and the G8/SS are so pudgy. If they brought the SS in around F30 weights, or even within a few hundred pounds, I'll be impressed, but I suspect this won't happen.
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Weight aside, one thing I don't like: the transmission. No paddle shift, no manual. Kinda takes the fun out of that 415hp motor.
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Weight aside, one thing I don't like: the transmission. No paddle shift, no manual. Kinda takes the fun out of that 415hp motor.
I forget where I saw it, but a US car magazine tested a first gen Viper in the 1/4 mile using 1-3 and then again just starting in 3rd and not shifting. There was a really small difference, like 0.2s. If you have enough torque, it sort of negates the benefits of shifting (just ask Tesla).

Having said all that, I'd still consider the SS if they make a three pedal car, but as for shift paddles, count me as one who doesn't care.
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I think Chevy missed the mark by not offering a manual in this car. The Pontiac GXP had one, not sure why they chose not to with the SS. IMO. the lack of a manual and bland front end styling will hurt this car's chances.
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I think Chevy missed the mark by not offering a manual in this car. The Pontiac GXP had one, not sure why they chose not to with the SS. IMO. the lack of a manual and bland front end styling will hurt this car's chances.
Agreed, I'm hoping there's a hotter version coming, with an available manual, like they did with the G8, with the GT and GXP versions.
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I think Chevy missed the mark by not offering a manual in this car. The Pontiac GXP had one, not sure why they chose not to with the SS. IMO. the lack of a manual and bland front end styling will hurt this car's chances.
No manual is my one gripe with the car. But you can't really fault GM for putting out an affordable car with rear wheel drive, 50/50 weight balance, and a 6.2L V8. My guess is the dual clutch they have in development will find its way in this car.
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Where did you get your info? The car engineered in Australia and there have been no tests that I've seen so far.

I can tell you the G8 was almost as good as any BMW Ive driven and the Camaro SS 1LE and Cadillac ATS sound amazing in their reviews. I love BMWs but Im not full of kool-aid either.
Same here, I had a 2009 g8 gt. Felt just as good as my 335i. Only difference with the interior is nicer in the bmw. i bailed on the pontiac though because they went out of business. i didn't want to deal with stupid service trying to get parts. When i saw the SS announced, I'm about 90% sure I will be trading in my 335i for one.
I just need to hear more detail first.
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Ill need to see one in person but Ill be looking at replacing my 335 with one also.
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