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      02-13-2013, 09:37 PM   #23
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It's darn close to the same quickness as an M5. "Performing" is something 20 different people would define differently...

Tesla Model S Performance 0-60 in 3.9 seconds

F10 M5 0-60 4.1 seconds

We have a Tesla dealership in my local mall, but if you ask for a test drive, it requires a $5000 deposit.
I have an e90 m3 supercharged putting out about 650hp as well as a Tesla performance S. The S is actually faster off the line under 50mph. The M may be faster with launch control if you get it right. The S launches consistently and is terrifyingly fast.
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I have an e90 m3 supercharged putting out about 650hp as well as a Tesla performance S. The S is actually faster off the line under 50mph. The M may be faster with launch control if you get it right. The S launches consistently and is terrifyingly fast.
Can you adopt me?

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i like it! it would make the perfect DD
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Dude! Why would you want a 500hp V8 in this as it can already out-accelerate (and quite possibly out-handle)a F10 M5
took the words right out of my mouth. This car is badass IMO. Would def. consider it for myself in the future!
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You're kidding, right? A Tesla S won't outperform an M5.
theres a video on youtube where it does...
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I'll just put this right here.....

wow thats frickin awesome!!!! Can you imagine where we'll be with technology in one more decade, taking into account how far we've come in the last decade? Should be interesting....
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theres a video on youtube where it does...
Then there is something wrong with the BMW.
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Then there is something wrong with the BMW.
Not really... My blown m3 blew away the f10 m5 at one lap of america competition (you can see all the results on their webpage). My S is faster than the M3 under 50mph. Don't underestimate 440 ft lb of torque from zero.
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The Tesla S is NOT faster than an M5. It may have a slight advantage off the line, but that is about it.

The test that everyone talks about is bogus in my eyes. The Tesla driver jumped the start pretty noticeably, and the M5 driver launched like there was a cop next to him (okay I exaggerate a bit here, but the launch was clearly not a best effort). Also, if you really pay attention, the M5 driver granny shifted as well. IMO, they used a manual M5 because there is no way to sandbag a run in a DCT M5 without clearly letting off the throttle.

They also conveniently used an engineered test finish speed of 100mph, because there would be no way they could find a way to show the Tesla winning in a traditional quater mile. The M5 would just suck the doors of the Tesla in such a contest, and there would be no way to hide that.

These are obviously my opinions, but c'mon, the M5s are capable of 11 second quarter miles at over 120 mph, and the Tesla is nowhere near that universe.

Like I said, it was an engineered test, using all Tesla-vested-interest participants, with all parameters constrained to the Tesla's advantage.

If I owned the M5, there would be zero chance that Tesla would win, even if race was constrained to 100mph. I would be in it to win in my M5 (dct, of course), and that Tesla would be sucking on the fumes from my climate-altering, Polar-bear downing M5.

I could run that same test and convince most viewers that a stock VW GTI is faster than an M3, but those with a brain would see right through it (provided they were not blinded by subconscious political ideology like many are for an electric car).

Witch all that said. I feel the Tesla S is the best of breed for current electric cars, and is one of the best looking sedans I've laid eyes on.
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I'm not seeing it. Even the overly generous Car and Driver has its 0-60 at 4.6 seconds and its 1/4 mile in 13.3 seconds @ 104. Those are E46 M3 numbers not F10 M5 ones.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-s-test-review
Now that makes sense.
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took the words right out of my mouth. This car is badass IMO. Would def. consider it for myself in the future!
See above.
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You're kidding, right? A Tesla S won't outperform an M5.
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theres a video on youtube where it does...
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I have an e90 m3 supercharged putting out about 650hp as well as a Tesla performance S. The S is actually faster off the line under 50mph. The M may be faster with launch control if you get it right. The S launches consistently and is terrifyingly fast.
But once that initial off-the line jump of the Tesla gets reeled back in, I'm sure your M3 walks on by.

Like I said, put a 500hp V8 in it, and I'd be all over it.
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But once that initial off-the line jump of the Tesla gets reeled back in, I'm sure your M3 walks on by.
I'll get some data for you. Data doesn't lie. The initial torque shouldn't be under estimated. I think after 50mph the m3 has an advantage BUT on a drag strip it'll be at least 80-90mph before the m3 has a chance to make up for that.

The S out of corners is simple amazing.
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Speaking of corners, how do you find the ~4700+ lb weight? I've go to believe in any kind of spirited driving you feel that extra half ton. (BTW, serious question since you own one, not baiting.)
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Speaking of corners, how do you find the ~4700+ lb weight? I've go to believe in any kind of spirited driving you feel that extra half ton. (BTW, serious question since you own one, not baiting.)
It definitely has more heft to it. The tires are skinny at 245 width and could use more but I understand they need to balance for efficiency. I may opt to put on bigger tires and different wheels when these wear out.

But for 4700lbs it handles surprisingly well, yes at the track you have to slow it down in the corners (part of it is also the lack of mechanical grip), but the chasis is stiff and very responsive and predictable - especially for that weight.

I'm not stranger to weight. I have an e90 m3 as well as a 2400lb track prepped e36 m3. The S handles very similar to the e36. The weight is below you and the car doesn't roll. my e90 handles like a pig comparatively.
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Awesome. Two beautiful machines. My two top three favorite cars right now.
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saw and sat in one not that long ago. pretty cool car. we have a store in the mall thats a tesla botique i guess that has several in an attempt to generate buzz and sales. dont know who would go to the mall for clothes and buy one on a whim though.
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saw and sat in one not that long ago. pretty cool car. we have a store in the mall thats a tesla botique i guess that has several in an attempt to generate buzz and sales. dont know who would go to the mall for clothes and buy one on a whim though.
You can't buy one on a whim... you configure and order it online... Those stores are just info/education centers... otherwise the car dealership association would have a cow. A couple states in the NE have already blocked out tesla from even having the stores there.
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Awesome. Two beautiful machines. My two top three favorite cars right now.
and the 3rd? does it start with a p, and also have a 3 in it?
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and the 3rd? does it start with a p, and also have a 3 in it?
It's actually the M6 Gran Coupe.

When I'm old I'd like to have those three and an AM Vantage V-12. But I'm sure if/when I can afford such a garage, cooler cars will be out by then. But I can dream right?
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dream away. and holy post count batman.
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this definitely seems like an ideal setup! strangely practical!
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I'm not seeing it. Even the overly generous Car and Driver has its 0-60 at 4.6 seconds and its 1/4 mile in 13.3 seconds @ 104. Those are E46 M3 numbers not F10 M5 ones.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-s-test-review
Not seeing it? I posted links from the same source testing both. You replied with the a culled test of a different car. Find results for the "Model S Performance". It is a different version of the Model S than the one you posted a link to, that has more giddy-up.
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dream away. and holy post count batman.
Been on here since a few months after the E90 was introduced. Also on my third E90. All I need to finish owning each motor available in the USA is to get an M3.

Ive had a 330xi, 335i, and currently a 335d. I need to find an E90 M3
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