KW S/O kit, Corner Balancing, Alignment and Driving Impressions - Page 2

Alekshop · 02-10-2013, 12:55 AM

Nice -2.5 camber! Gotta love those Vorshlag plates ....

BTW you are .1 off on CWB

ortho281 · 02-11-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyMikee

good to know thanks! i think i made my decision

NP! I'm happy with them so far.

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Originally Posted by SROC5

Congrats! I had the same purpose with the KW S/Os when I put them on my car. Loved them when I had them on the track!

Only thing to be aware of is these will wear out your dampers if you go to the track a lot. I had them on for 30 days and my dampers started to feel the effects. The biggest indicator was during high speed turns going into a front straight, the car would ever so slightly bob more than it used to and have that squishy effect.

Yes, I had also heard that, and I did experience a bit of that this weekend when pushing very hard. When I dialed it back to around 8/10 the the squishy effect went away. I agree with most that the full adjustable coil overs would be a better track option, but the KW Sleeve overs (with EDC in sport mode) is not bad either. Overall, the grip was very good and the tires were always on the ground despite the bumpy track.

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Originally Posted by andeee05

Good post. Debating on testing these as well

As I mentioned above, I am very pleased with KW S/O so far. They are not the perfect race setup, but that was not there intended purpose.

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Originally Posted by Alekshop

Nice -2.5 camber! Gotta love those Vorshlag plates ....

BTW you are .1 off on CWB

Sorry, not following you? CWB?

ortho281 · 02-11-2013, 06:02 PM

The newly installed KW S/O performed better than I expected this past weekend. Although, there was a slight squirmish feeling in the rear on high G corners, the rear tires was always planted and it never felt skitish. I was able to run a 2:31:590 this weekend at MSR Cresson, my last session. I have no time comparisons as this weekend was also my first time at this track.

I was bumped from Blue to Yellow the 1st day and so got the chance to evaluate the corner balancing by running solo the 2nd day. I can say that the cornering grip with this setup is a definate improvement over the Eibach springs. I was able to explore the limits of the NT01's (requires a 5 mm spacer up front), which felt planted at all times. I did end up lowering a total of 0.6 in in front and 0.75 in rear more than the Eibach springs after settling. The combination of increased lowering, corner balancing and increased spring rates all contributed to the improvements noted.

Raucky2000 · 02-11-2013, 07:00 PM

Looks really good...have fun!

ortho281 · 02-12-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raucky2000

Looks really good...have fun!

Thanks! MSR Cresson was lots of fun!
I did notice after my last session, that the NT01's rub on inside of inside against the KW S/O kit up front. A pair of 5 mm spacer on fronts is all that is needed to prevent this rubbing.

ortho281 · 02-12-2013, 02:08 PM

The 1st pic is with Eibach Pro-kit and 2nd pic is with KW Sleeve kit set approx 2 turns from lowest setting. Same wheels and tires in both pics.

The total lowering over OEM (non-EDC) is approx 1.0 inch front and rear and approx 0.6 inch and 0.75 inch front and rear over Eibach Pro-kit.

KEYON · 02-12-2013, 02:29 PM

Looks good! Glad to hear it held up at the track

ortho281 · 02-12-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KEYON

Looks good! Glad to hear it held up at the track

Thanks! I was skeptical from what I had read, but overall it did well and I am very pleased. I will more than likely step up to full KW coil overs when the the EDC dampeners wear out. But these serve my intended purpose for now.

1MOREMOD · 02-12-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ortho281

Thanks! I was skeptical from what I had read, but overall it did well and I am very pleased. I will more than likely step up to full KW coil overs when the the EDC dampeners wear out. But these serve my intended purpose for now.

my plan also.

ortho281 · 02-12-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

my plan also.

"Great bimmer minds think alike"

1MOREMOD · 02-12-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ortho281

"Great bimmer minds think alike"

my goal up until now was to be one of if not the fastest stock brake and suspension m3s at my track. not sure how im doing but i am pushing the boundary of what is stock. i still have stock rotors, calipers and dampers so think that counts?

E92inSG · 02-12-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ortho281

The 1st pic is with Eibach Pro-kit and 2nd pic is with KW Sleeve kit set approx 2 turns from lowest setting. Same wheels and tires in both pics.

The total lowering over OEM (non-EDC) is approx 1.0 inch front and rear and approx 0.6 inch and 0.75 inch front and rear over Eibach Pro-kit.

Not sure if its just me but it looks lower in the top pic.

I'm on eibachs now and wondering whether to go kw sleeves as I want it lower.

1MOREMOD · 02-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

Not sure if its just me but it looks lower in the top pic.

its just you. the bottom one is definitely lower.

E92inSG · 02-12-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

its just you. the bottom one is definitely lower.

ok thats wierd. when i viewed it using the bimmpost iphone app just now, the bottom pic showed up on top. looking at it on my PC now I can see the right order. my bad.

1MOREMOD · 02-12-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

ok thats wierd. when i viewed it using the bimmpost iphone app just now, the bottom pic showed up on top. looking at it on my PC now I can see the right order. my bad.

that would explain it and you dont need glasses.

ortho281 · 02-12-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

my goal up until now was to be one of if not the fastest stock brake and suspension m3s at my track. not sure how im doing but i am pushing the boundary of what is stock. i still have stock rotors, calipers and dampers so think that counts?

I think so! I ran stock for quite a while. But I'm enjoying the track mods more!

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

Not sure if its just me but it looks lower in the top pic.

I'm on eibachs now and wondering whether to go kw sleeves as I want it lower.

Do it! You won't be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

its just you. the bottom one is definitely lower.

He had me going for a while there!

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

ok thats wierd. when i viewed it using the bimmpost iphone app just now, the bottom pic showed up on top. looking at it on my PC now I can see the right order. my bad.

My wife is an Optomistrist. I was wondering if you needed a referral.

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

that would explain it and you dont need glasses.

Glasses are over rated! I have to wear them.

1MOREMOD · 02-13-2013, 12:10 AM

mostly just a way to save money and prevent the inevitable. BBK, coilovers, half cage, seats, and who knows it never ends.

1MOREMOD · 02-13-2013, 12:13 AM

oh dinan stroker. dont forget that.

ortho281 · 02-13-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

mostly just a way to save money and prevent the inevitable. BBK, coilovers, half cage, seats, and who knows it never ends.

Isn't that the truth. The modding bug can last a very long time!

1MOREMOD · 02-13-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ortho281

Isn't that the truth. The modding bug can last a very long time!

only until the money runs out. i need a rich guy to put me in his will.

ortho281 · 02-28-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by andeee05

Good post. Debating on testing these as well

Thanks! I am very pleased with ride quality. Since the install, I raised the fronts 2 turns (0.2") to achieve a more level stance.

Tim B. · 03-01-2013, 01:36 PM

Car looks nice, love the drop

02-10-2013, 12:55 AM	#23
Alekshop BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: M3LR l 1M l X5 l GT-R Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,112 iTrader: (7)	Nice -2.5 camber! Gotta love those Vorshlag plates .... BTW you are .1 off on CWB __________________ Like us on Facebook ✆ 925.609.4559 ✉ info@alekshop.com

02-11-2013, 06:02 PM	#25
ortho281 Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 599 iTrader: (0)	Testing KW S/O at Motorsports Ranch (3.1) this past weekend. The newly installed KW S/O performed better than I expected this past weekend. Although, there was a slight squirmish feeling in the rear on high G corners, the rear tires was always planted and it never felt skitish. I was able to run a 2:31:590 this weekend at MSR Cresson, my last session. I have no time comparisons as this weekend was also my first time at this track. I was bumped from Blue to Yellow the 1st day and so got the chance to evaluate the corner balancing by running solo the 2nd day. I can say that the cornering grip with this setup is a definate improvement over the Eibach springs. I was able to explore the limits of the NT01's (requires a 5 mm spacer up front), which felt planted at all times. I did end up lowering a total of 0.6 in in front and 0.75 in rear more than the Eibach springs after settling. The combination of increased lowering, corner balancing and increased spring rates all contributed to the improvements noted. __________________ Akra Evo / MS stage 2 / MS UDP / VF Tune / KW S/O springs / Vorshlag plates / ST 380/355 BBK / ST SR34 pads / Apex Arc-8 / Nitto NT01 / Schroth Rallye 3 Last edited by ortho281; 02-11-2013 at 09:35 PM.

02-12-2013, 02:08 PM	#28
ortho281 Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 599 iTrader: (0)	Before and After Track pics w/ KW Sleeve kit The 1st pic is with Eibach Pro-kit and 2nd pic is with KW Sleeve kit set approx 2 turns from lowest setting. Same wheels and tires in both pics. The total lowering over OEM (non-EDC) is approx 1.0 inch front and rear and approx 0.6 inch and 0.75 inch front and rear over Eibach Pro-kit. Attached Images __________________ Akra Evo / MS stage 2 / MS UDP / VF Tune / KW S/O springs / Vorshlag plates / ST 380/355 BBK / ST SR34 pads / Apex Arc-8 / Nitto NT01 / Schroth Rallye 3

02-12-2013, 02:29 PM	#29
KEYON Colonel Drives: 2011 SG E92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,677 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 E92 M3 [4.83]	Looks good! Glad to hear it held up at the track __________________ Flickr

02-13-2013, 12:10 AM	#39
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	mostly just a way to save money and prevent the inevitable. BBK, coilovers, half cage, seats, and who knows it never ends. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

02-11-2013, 07:00 PM	#26
Raucky2000 First Lieutenant Drives: SGM E90 M3 dct Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 330 iTrader: (1)	Looks really good...have fun!

02-13-2013, 12:13 AM	#40
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	oh dinan stroker. dont forget that. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

03-01-2013, 01:36 PM	#44
Tim B. Lieutenant Drives: 2010 Jet Black E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 478 iTrader: (0)	Car looks nice, love the drop

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