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      02-18-2013, 04:24 PM   #485
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I was running cups awhile back but my skill/experience wasn't good enough to make use of them (I also didn't run enough camber). I actually turned faster times on street tires. But I have R888's coming in today so I hope I'll have a better experience this coming Monday.
I have tracked with Michelin PSS (in my limited track experience) but am thinking about switching to R888's as well since they will fit on the stock ZCP wheels and should provide more grip in all circumstances (except wet). I look forward to hearing your reviews of them. By the way, what tires are you running now?
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I have tracked with Michelin PSS (in my limited track experience) but am thinking about switching to R888's as well since they will fit on the stock ZCP wheels and should provide more grip in all circumstances (except wet). I look forward to hearing your reviews of them. By the way, what tires are you running now?
I'm running AD08's. I ended up doing one more day with these tires so no R888 review yet. I have another event in 2 weeks which I'll have the new tires on for.
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E90 M3 DCT
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Tires: Hankook TD 265/35/18 285/30/18
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Great time! Great day!

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      02-19-2013, 09:38 PM   #490
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E90 M3 DCT
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Tires: Hankook TD 265/35/18 285/30/18
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Other mods: none
Great time! Do you know what lap times you were doing before the TD tires? I want to gauge how many seconds the TD would shave off of rs3's. Thanks.
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      02-19-2013, 11:50 PM   #491
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Great time! Great day!

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Great time! Do you know what lap times you were doing before the TD tires? I want to gauge how many seconds the TD would shave off of rs3's. Thanks.
Ran NT01 once there in December and did 2:03. If I came back on NT01, I think I could've done 2:02, may be high 2:01 if I get lucky.
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      02-20-2013, 03:08 PM   #493
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Ran NT01 once there in December and did 2:03. If I came back on NT01, I think I could've done 2:02, may be high 2:01 if I get lucky.
NICE! My last time there I did a 2:02 with RS3's so I should hit high 1:50's with TD's Good to know!
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      02-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #495
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Great time! Do you know what lap times you were doing before the TD tires? I want to gauge how many seconds the TD would shave off of rs3's. Thanks.
Hi.

I have a VF620 kit like you, and I was doing 2:01.5 on R-S3 tires. I switched to TD and went straight to 1:59.2 without any troubles. I know I can pick up 0.2 and get into 1:58 territory. I just need to be cleaner and smoother. (My fastest segments/splits in Harry's Lap Timer add up to 1:58.5).

At the end of the day, all I can say is that TD's feel amazing.
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      02-20-2013, 03:19 PM   #496
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Hi.

I have a VF620 kit like you, and I was doing 2:01.5 on R-S3 tires. I switched to TD and went straight to 1:59.2 without any troubles. I know I can pick up 0.2 and get into 1:58 territory. I just need to be cleaner and smoother. (My fastest segments/splits in Harry's Lap Timer add up to 1:58.5).

At the end of the day, all I can say is that TD's feel amazing.
Nice! I'll be at Buttonwillow on the 9th and hopefully I can get 2:00 flat
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      02-20-2013, 03:32 PM   #497
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Nice! I'll be at Buttonwillow on the 9th and hopefully I can get 2:00 flat
If you're on TD's, you will do better than 2:00. The grip is incredible. The way they can go through corners is phenomenal. However, be aware that they seem to be the fastest right when they're brand new. Three of us have had the same experience------you have fresh TD's on the car; you go out and the first couple hot laps net some incredible times; then the rest of the day you're chasing those times and never seem to get back there. So, hopefully, you'll have some open track on your first hot laps with those tires.

Also, watch the outside driver's front tire. For me, it wore faster than the edges of the rest of the tires, and I have over -3 degrees of front camber. Off-Ramp, the entry to Cotton Corners, Riverside and Sweeper are some of the most abusive turns at BW 13CW, and they all turn to the right, so the driver-side front outer edge gets hammered. After a couple sessions, I suggest switching the front tires (which means running them backwards) to share the abuse on the driver's front outside edge.

As far as size, I went 265/35/18, 295/30/18 (APEX ARC-8). Works awesome with the blower.
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Nice job Joe!
Thanks!!

Good to see everyone yesterday! Finally got to meet OC3

So I was driving Nerwyll's car because my car is at the body shop and I ended up doing a 1:56.060 with his car First session out I some how picked up a BOLT (not a nail) in my left rear tire and get a flat in turn 4. Glad I didn't end up blowing up the tire on the banking. Ran the car with my spare 245/40/18's in the front and then the front tires I had on 275/35/18 I put in the rear.




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^Good to finally meet you too Joe.

Here's a pic of you in action on the Roval.

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Thanks!!

Good to see everyone yesterday! Finally got to meet OC3

So I was driving Nerwyll's car because my car is at the body shop and I ended up doing a 1:56.060 with his car First session out I some how picked up a BOLT (not a nail) in my left rear tire and get a flat in turn 4. Glad I didn't end up blowing up the tire on the banking. Ran the car with my spare 245/40/18's in the front and then the front tires I had on 275/35/18 I put in the rear.
Damn that's scary...getting a flat at the track is my worst nightmare Exactly why I don't drive on the street with my track tires.
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If you're on TD's, you will do better than 2:00. The grip is incredible. The way they can go through corners is phenomenal. However, be aware that they seem to be the fastest right when they're brand new. Three of us have had the same experience------you have fresh TD's on the car; you go out and the first couple hot laps net some incredible times; then the rest of the day you're chasing those times and never seem to get back there. So, hopefully, you'll have some open track on your first hot laps with those tires.

Also, watch the outside driver's front tire. For me, it wore faster than the edges of the rest of the tires, and I have over -3 degrees of front camber. Off-Ramp, the entry to Cotton Corners, Riverside and Sweeper are some of the most abusive turns at BW 13CW, and they all turn to the right, so the driver-side front outer edge gets hammered. After a couple sessions, I suggest switching the front tires (which means running them backwards) to share the abuse on the driver's front outside edge.

As far as size, I went 265/35/18, 295/30/18 (APEX ARC-8). Works awesome with the blower.
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Damn that's scary...getting a flat at the track is my worst nightmare Exactly why I don't drive on the street with my track tires.
Exactly I'm glad I brought my spares just in case.
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E90 M3 ZCP DCT
Track/course: VIR full course
Best Lap Time: 2:13.6
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first event with coilovers felt great, took off 2 seconds and haven't gotten them dialed in yet. fun.
Excellent time! 4 way adjustable Sounds like a nightmare to dial in, but am sure will be awesome once done!
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