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      02-05-2013, 04:49 PM   #1
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Can the KW sleeve kit achive a stance like this?

My car will never see any track time. So the suspension work that I do would be strictly for looks only.

I was thinking of getting the KW sleeve-over kit. Mainly because I think you might be able to get a lower ride height than what the springs offer. And also I read from some members that the ride is a bit better than with just Eibach or H&R springs.


Here is the stance that I would like to achive. Do you guys think that it can be done with just the KW S/O kit?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780214
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Your wheel/tire combo will play a role in stance as well.

I personally think that the sleeve kit is a waste. It shouldn't provide any different ride since it's just a spring setup as well (just happens to be adjustable).
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Your wheel/tire combo will play a role in stance as well.

I personally think that the sleeve kit is a waste. It shouldn't provide any different ride since it's just a spring setup as well (just happens to be adjustable).
+1 wheel/tire play a big part and any set of springs will do just fine
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If you do some research you will find that the performance with lowering springs and stock shocks will worsen the lower you go. The ride height on the car in the link was achieved with coil-overs and I would bet that the ride quality will suck if you tried to go that low with the spring-over kit. Even with coilovers that ride-height is very impractical. I had mine set almost that low and I was scraping often. It looks cool but it takes away from the driving experience.
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Im planning on going with the set of 20 inch BBS wheels like the one on the link..that's why when i saw that link i got excited because it is very similar to what I had in mind... And I'm really digging the look.

I definitely do not want to pay the price of a coilovers...in my Mind is a waste for what I'm trying to do...And springs don't provide the desired drop. Do you guys have any other suggestions? Or are those my only options?
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Im planning on going with the set of 20 inch BBS wheels like the one on the link..that's why when i saw that link i got excited because it is very similar to what I had in mind... And I'm really digging the look.

I definitely do not want to pay the price of a coilovers...in my Mind is a waste for what I'm trying to do...And springs don't provide the desired drop. Do you guys have any other suggestions? Or are those my only options?
No other options. You may want to reconsider 20" as well as it will worsen your ride.
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No other options. You may want to reconsider 20" as well as it will worsen your ride.
+1.

If you're willing to spend $$ for those BBS w/Amuse offset + S/O kit. I'd go balls out and pick up a set of BBS E88 + S/O kit or + B&G springs w/E36 bump stops. <-- heard good things about those springs with the stops.
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+1.

If you're willing to spend $$ for those BBS w/Amuse offset + S/O kit. I'd go balls out and pick up a set of BBS E88 + S/O kit or + B&G springs w/E36 bump stops. <-- heard good things about those springs with the stops.
I run springs with the E36 bumpstops. I don't have any complaints about ride quality.
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What's the difference between the E36 bumpstops, and the bumpstops that are included with the KW S/O kit?
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      02-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #10
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What's the difference between the E36 bumpstops, and the bumpstops that are included with the KW S/O kit?
E36 bumpstops are shorter
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Oh alright, thanks for the info.
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Is there any advantage to running e36 bumpstops with the KW S/O kit vs the ones that come with it?
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Is there any advantage to running e36 bumpstops with the KW S/O kit vs the ones that come with it?
Im pretty sure the KW ones are just as small as the E36 ones.
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So I purchased a KW Sleeve kit and am wondering if I should get the E36 bumpstops then??? If so, anyone got a link where we can purchase them? Seriously though, what is the advantage of them being shorter? (Sorry, suspension noob)
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So I purchased a KW Sleeve kit and am wondering if I should get the E36 bumpstops then??? If so, anyone got a link where we can purchase them? Seriously though, what is the advantage of them being shorter? (Sorry, suspension noob)
Exactly what I'm wondering as well. But if they're the same as the e36 bumpstops like ILSMKU mentioned above, then I guess there's no point.

Here's a link to them: http://www.hpashop.com/BMW-E36-M3-Bu...ump-stopts.htm
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If you do some research you will find that the performance with lowering springs and stock shocks will worsen the lower you go. The ride height on the car in the link was achieved with coil-overs and I would bet that the ride quality will suck if you tried to go that low with the spring-over kit. Even with coilovers that ride-height is very impractical. I had mine set almost that low and I was scraping often. It looks cool but it takes away from the driving experience.
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I think that's too low for a sleeve kit. It won't ride well. Probably be pretty bouncy and will kill the stock strut/shock pretty quickly, making it even more bouncy once that happens.

To be that low you need stiffer springs and dampening to match.
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