BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
OneEighty
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-04-2013, 10:26 PM   #45
TheDeliverator
First Lieutenant
TheDeliverator's Avatar
3
Rep
393
Posts

 
Drives: A Singularity
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MD

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2013 BMW M3  [0.00]
M4? Maybe... I'm sure it's going to look badass, but will the ///M division be allowed to make a special car? It appears the Accounting and Marketing departments may be gaining a little to much sway in Munich. Sure, the new M4 will sell really well, but will the new voices at BMW rest too much on ///M divisions reputation? If they slap an ///M badge on a less then stellar vehicle, they will eventually end up losing customers.

Yes, gas prices are getting higher and turbo provides cheap power, but where is the innovation in the M4's engine? ///M has long been known for special engines and yes, the engine in the M4 is a fine piece of engineering, but it is no longer cutting edge engineering. AMG is keeping the V8, Ford's V8 Coyote is special and gets excellent millage. BMW seems to be going backwards. Who buys an M to sip on gas? Apparently the customers BMW marketing is targeting. [-JetFalcons Dad!] The gas sippers can have their regular 3 and 4 series. Let ///M Division off the leash.

Anyways, I wasn't planning on ranting...

More excited about the M2 right now (see it's not just a big V8 I'm interested in), and as a class of 2013 owner; I've got plenty of time to let BMW help me decide where and with whom to spend.
__________________

V1C / Bel STiR+ / Integrated mirror display / AD08r f255/35 r275/35
/ IND Euro Bumper / MP Splitters / MP Steering Wheel
Appreciate 0
      02-04-2013, 10:29 PM   #46
e92livin
Captain
e92livin's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
935
Posts

 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E92Hwo2 View Post
Never going to get first year of model
+1 buddy
Appreciate 0
      02-04-2013, 10:44 PM   #47
X2Board
Captain
X2Board's Avatar
United_States
18
Rep
961
Posts

 
Drives: '11 X5 M
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Wake County, NC

iTrader: (1)

Since I'm a sedan kind of guy, I'll add an F80 to the E90 at some point. definitely not the first year, and I'll probably wait for the inevitable LCI.
__________________
2015 YMB/Silverstone F80 M3 6sp ED completed on 12/5. Tracking shipment, and waiting for PCD date.
2011 Sapphire Black/Black E70 X5 M - For Sale! Send me a PM for details.
2010 Jerez Black/Black E90 M3 DCT -Gone-
2009 Montego Blue/Grey E90 335i -Gone-
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:30 AM   #48
Mike van D
Major
Mike van D's Avatar
Germany
11
Rep
1,114
Posts

 
Drives: SG X6 35i; MW e92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

No idea at this point...need it to be released and assess it then.
__________________
...just enjoying life.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:42 AM   #49
Stainless 45
Lieutenant
Stainless 45's Avatar
8
Rep
458
Posts

 
Drives: Last of the V-8 Interceptors
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

I'll pass. M's peaked with the current e92. Porsche has had turbo six's figured out for some time now. BMW not so much. More cylinders > less for us. The only thing which could eclipse my current M3 might be a Shelby GT500. Possibly an M6, though I don't see a $120k car in my near future.
__________________
2011.5 LeMans Blue e92 DCT, ZCP, European Delivery. Black Edition Grilles, No Keyhole or Reflectors, Rear Fogs Enabled, Encore Innovation Exhaust, LUX Angel Eyes, 255x285's. "Last of the V-8 Interceptors, a real piece of history..."
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 12:58 AM   #50
slicer
Brigadier General
slicer's Avatar
61
Rep
3,941
Posts

 
Drives: '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic311 View Post
You sir, have the gift of common sense..rarely observed in the wild..
I will take that as a compliment.
__________________
ALL PARTS FOR SALE (click links and/or Send me a PM) -
KW Clubsport 3-way, Mode Carbon GTS Wing, BMW Pedals Billet Extended DCT Paddles, Advan TC3 (9.5/10.5), Planted E92 Floor Mounts, Schroth Quick Fit Pro Harnesses (Red - E82/E90/E92 Version)
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 07:07 AM   #51
Technic
Lieutenant General
Technic's Avatar
United_States
174
Rep
11,205
Posts

 
Drives: 2015 320i
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida

iTrader: (18)

Garage List
2004 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by E92Hwo2 View Post
Never going to get first year of model
x3.14
__________________
-2015 F30 320i, Imperial/Oyster, 8AT: August 2014 ED
-2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: Gone
-2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone
-2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone
-2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 07:19 AM   #52
ChrisK
Brigadier General
ChrisK's Avatar
United_States
87
Rep
4,865
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: IL

iTrader: (4)

I'll keep the e92 M3.

Next car-> 911 Carrera S or Carrera S Cabriolet

The wife has already given the thumbs up to either. Whata wife!!!!
__________________

2011 E92 M3: AW/BLK • DCT
Europäische Lieferung am 6. August 2010
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 08:59 AM   #53
ortho281
Captain
ortho281's Avatar
United_States
11
Rep
683
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 E92 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Katy, TX

iTrader: (0)

I will probably get the M4 in a couple of years and turn the E92 M3 into a dedicated track car.
__________________

Akra Evo / MS stage 2 / MS UDP / VF Tune / KW Clubsports Coilovers / Vorshlag plates / TMS Delrin Bushings / ST 380/355 BBK / ST SR34 pads / Apex Arc-8 / Nitto NT01 / APR splitter and wing / Cantrell Motorsports half cage / Recaro Profi / Schroth Profi II-6 / BMW Performance Alcantera wheel / Aim Solo DL
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 09:17 AM   #54
flanast
Private First Class
flanast's Avatar
United_States
1
Rep
157
Posts

 
Drives: e92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

I'll wait until the new model has been out a few years to make sure the bugs are worked out and then compare against the new Z06 and GT3. I am not a turbo fan after having owned a 2007 335 but keeping an open mind on the tri turbo.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 01:25 PM   #55
davesaddiction
is fast cars
davesaddiction's Avatar
United_States
34
Rep
1,600
Posts

 
Drives: '08 E90 M3 6MT SSII BPM Stg II
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Tulsa

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeliverator View Post
More excited about the M2 right now
Same here. If all of M is going turbo, I'd rather go smaller/lighter if I get another M some day.
__________________
Daddy's Rocket Sled! _
Clarkson: "It is... pretty much perfect... Why don't I have one of these cars?"
Harris: "The saloon is definitely the M3 of choice."
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 01:27 PM   #56
swartzentruber
Captain
United_States
9
Rep
608
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago NW suburbs, IL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeliverator View Post
M4? Maybe... I'm sure it's going to look badass, but will the ///M division be allowed to make a special car? It appears the Accounting and Marketing departments may be gaining a little to much sway in Munich. Sure, the new M4 will sell really well, but will the new voices at BMW rest too much on ///M divisions reputation? If they slap an ///M badge on a less then stellar vehicle, they will eventually end up losing customers.

Yes, gas prices are getting higher and turbo provides cheap power, but where is the innovation in the M4's engine? ///M has long been known for special engines and yes, the engine in the M4 is a fine piece of engineering, but it is no longer cutting edge engineering. AMG is keeping the V8, Ford's V8 Coyote is special and gets excellent millage. BMW seems to be going backwards. Who buys an M to sip on gas? Apparently the customers BMW marketing is targeting. [-JetFalcons Dad!] The gas sippers can have their regular 3 and 4 series. Let ///M Division off the leash.

Anyways, I wasn't planning on ranting...

More excited about the M2 right now (see it's not just a big V8 I'm interested in), and as a class of 2013 owner; I've got plenty of time to let BMW help me decide where and with whom to spend.
+1 to pretty much all of this sentiment. I'm not terribly sure why a substantial contingent are convinced the new M3/M4 will be substantially better than the current generation. The new M5/M6 don't seem to be exactly setting the world on fire, if you refer to recent mag reviews.

I'm disappointed that while many of their direct or indirect competitors are sticking with a V8, BMW thinks it can be successful downsizing the engine to a 6. One of the reasons I went to the M3 from my 335 was missing the responsiveness (and sound) of NA. I also just don't get why BMW needs to make every generation bigger. The current 3 is a decent enough size, if possibly too big.

I guess I'll wait and see, but right now I'd say the odds of making the switch are doubtful.
__________________
2011 Jerez Black/Fox Red E90 M3 DCT, ZCP, ZCV, ZCW, ZP2, BMW Apps
2004 VW R32 (track car)
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 11:08 PM   #57
tommy94gt
Captain
tommy94gt's Avatar
6
Rep
621
Posts

 
Drives: E92 AW M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NYC

iTrader: (26)

Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon//m3 View Post
When I had an e46 I said I would never get an e92, one test drive and I have an e92 lol. So will have to wait and see.
That's my story exactly! And I was warned too lol
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 11:43 PM   #58
Gkap
BMF Movement
Gkap's Avatar
Canada
32
Rep
3,014
Posts

 
Drives: Women Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: GTA

iTrader: (1)

nope.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2013, 11:53 PM   #59
sycd
Lieutenant
United_States
7
Rep
414
Posts

 
Drives: F80 YMB 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 M3  [0.00]
2013 X5 50i  [0.00]
I'll have to drive it and see the final thing to know for sure, but from what we've seen of the 4 series so far and the rumor mill, I'm disappointed by the larger size and rumors of the demise of the V8. Looking forward to seeing what the M2 will be like, and might look at AMG more closely next time.

So far my 2012 E92 has not even 5k miles, so I'm planning to keep it for a few more years. If it holds up mechanically and ages well maybe for quite a while longer.
__________________
2015 M3 6MT Stripper | Yas Marina Blue, Cloth, CF | Adaptive M Susp, 437M
2013 X5 xDrive50i | Carbon Black | M Sport + M Perf, 333M Wheels
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 12:14 AM   #60
rorystewart
New Member
0
Rep
10
Posts

 
Drives: Old Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

What do LCI and ZCP stand for? I did a forum search but couldn't easily find a definition.
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 12:41 AM   #61
Vic311
Banned
United_States
17
Rep
1,469
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 e92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rorystewart View Post
What do LCI and ZCP stand for? I did a forum search but couldn't easily find a definition.
Heard of google?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437487

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512804
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 01:06 AM   #62
AbuArije5
First Lieutenant
4
Rep
303
Posts

 
Drives: Non
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York

iTrader: (1)

For those who are looking at gt3 or porsche turbo those damn prices are stable man aren't they!! I would love an gt3 rs pretty rare these days i seen one go for 150,000
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 08:11 AM   #63
luis_m3
Low Pro...
United_States
10
Rep
976
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 E90 AW
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Arizona

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgarcia41982
I am a riff raff! That being said, i will wait till 2017 so i can afford the 2014.
I think I'll do the same later... 2016/17
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 03:58 PM   #64
quiksi
Captain
quiksi's Avatar
Taiwan
7
Rep
767
Posts

 
Drives: E90
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to quiksi
possibly the LCI 4 door when that comes out, but defnitely no plans to pay early adopter prices
__________________

2011 E90 M3 6mt AW/Speed Cloth - ZCP, Moonroof, non-iDrive - PCD 12/9/10
Painted reflectors, matte black grills/gills, RemoteKey+, Homelink retrofit, V1 Hardwire, GP Thunder 8500K, modmy3 LED interior, VRS Replica CF Front Lip, Dinan Mufflers, HRE P40 19" Satin Charcoal, Bridgestone S04
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2013, 04:06 PM   #65
Longbow64
_______
Longbow64's Avatar
14
Rep
762
Posts

 
Drives: 09 E90 M3, 13 X3 35i MSport
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Orlando

iTrader: (4)

In 2018 I may think about buying a used 2016 M4 Gran Coupe. Hopefully there's a special edition of each car for BMW's 100th anniversary.
__________________

For Sale: '09 E90 M3 | VF620 SC tuned and coded by BPM | KW V3 | ARC Wheels w/AD08 | OnEighty Lights | AA Signature Exhaust | BMW Performance and IND trim |
'13 35i M-Sport X3 | JB4 Stage 1 | BMS Intake | H&R Springs | Gloss black grill | CF Wrap and Coded by me
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2013, 08:39 PM   #66
darnelld
Private First Class
1
Rep
110
Posts

 
Drives: 2006 Mystic Blue ZCP E46
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon//m3 View Post
When I had an e46 I said I would never get an e92, one test drive and I have an e92 lol. So will have to wait and see.
HA! Did the same thing. I now have an '06 ZCP and and '08 E90.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:02 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST