BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis
 
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-05-2013, 04:49 PM   #1
Tufosi
Private First Class
 
Tufosi's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 M3 DCT
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC.

Posts: 133
iTrader: (1)

Can the KW sleeve kit achive a stance like this?

My car will never see any track time. So the suspension work that I do would be strictly for looks only.

I was thinking of getting the KW sleeve-over kit. Mainly because I think you might be able to get a lower ride height than what the springs offer. And also I read from some members that the ride is a bit better than with just Eibach or H&R springs.


Here is the stance that I would like to achive. Do you guys think that it can be done with just the KW S/O kit?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780214
Tufosi is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-05-2013, 05:12 PM   #2
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Your wheel/tire combo will play a role in stance as well.

I personally think that the sleeve kit is a waste. It shouldn't provide any different ride since it's just a spring setup as well (just happens to be adjustable).
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-05-2013, 06:45 PM   #3
ms372
White Shark
 
ms372's Avatar
 
Drives: AW E92 m3 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Montreal

Posts: 905
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
Your wheel/tire combo will play a role in stance as well.

I personally think that the sleeve kit is a waste. It shouldn't provide any different ride since it's just a spring setup as well (just happens to be adjustable).
+1 wheel/tire play a big part and any set of springs will do just fine
__________________
ESS | Challenge x-pipe | Akrapovic | Stoptech BBK (380/355) |Ohlins R&T | Dinan | Vorsteiner | Downforce USA | Varis Diffuser | Gintani | UUC | BMW Performance | Macht Schnell | Forgestar F14's SDC 19x9.5F 19x11R | 255.35 295.30

ms372 is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-05-2013, 07:13 PM   #4
slicer
Brigadier General
 
slicer's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA

Posts: 3,551
iTrader: (10)

If you do some research you will find that the performance with lowering springs and stock shocks will worsen the lower you go. The ride height on the car in the link was achieved with coil-overs and I would bet that the ride quality will suck if you tried to go that low with the spring-over kit. Even with coilovers that ride-height is very impractical. I had mine set almost that low and I was scraping often. It looks cool but it takes away from the driving experience.
__________________
KW Clubsport 3-way, Akrapovic Evolution, ESS Tune, StopTech Trophy, IND Euro Bumper & Black Mirror Covers, Turner Studs/Lugs & Delrin Diff Bushings, MRF Solid Sub-Frame Bushings, RD Sport Sways, Recaro Profi-XL & Planted Seat Brackets, BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Interior Trim, BMW Edition Grills/Gills, Mode Carbon GT4 Splitter & GTS Wing, Advan TC3 (18x9.5/10.5), BBS E05 (18x10/11), G-Force Rivals (275/295)
slicer is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-05-2013, 07:56 PM   #5
Tufosi
Private First Class
 
Tufosi's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 M3 DCT
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte, NC.

Posts: 133
iTrader: (1)

Im planning on going with the set of 20 inch BBS wheels like the one on the link..that's why when i saw that link i got excited because it is very similar to what I had in mind... And I'm really digging the look.

I definitely do not want to pay the price of a coilovers...in my Mind is a waste for what I'm trying to do...And springs don't provide the desired drop. Do you guys have any other suggestions? Or are those my only options?
Tufosi is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 10:14 AM   #6
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tufosi View Post
Im planning on going with the set of 20 inch BBS wheels like the one on the link..that's why when i saw that link i got excited because it is very similar to what I had in mind... And I'm really digging the look.

I definitely do not want to pay the price of a coilovers...in my Mind is a waste for what I'm trying to do...And springs don't provide the desired drop. Do you guys have any other suggestions? Or are those my only options?
No other options. You may want to reconsider 20" as well as it will worsen your ride.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 11:40 AM   #7
BMW Fanatic
Banned
 
Drives: slow
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary

Posts: 3,314
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE TECH View Post
No other options. You may want to reconsider 20" as well as it will worsen your ride.
+1.

If you're willing to spend $$ for those BBS w/Amuse offset + S/O kit. I'd go balls out and pick up a set of BBS E88 + S/O kit or + B&G springs w/E36 bump stops. <-- heard good things about those springs with the stops.
BMW Fanatic is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 12:04 PM   #8
THE TECH
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
THE TECH's Avatar
 
Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kansas

Posts: 13,065
iTrader: (44)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to THE TECH Send a message via Skype™ to THE TECH
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW Fanatic View Post
+1.

If you're willing to spend $$ for those BBS w/Amuse offset + S/O kit. I'd go balls out and pick up a set of BBS E88 + S/O kit or + B&G springs w/E36 bump stops. <-- heard good things about those springs with the stops.
I run springs with the E36 bumpstops. I don't have any complaints about ride quality.
__________________
THE TECH is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 12:16 PM   #9
EndOfAnEra
First Lieutenant
 
EndOfAnEra's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 E92 328i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New Jersey

Posts: 316
iTrader: (2)

Send a message via Yahoo to EndOfAnEra
What's the difference between the E36 bumpstops, and the bumpstops that are included with the KW S/O kit?
EndOfAnEra is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #10
italyix
Lieutenant
 
italyix's Avatar
 
Drives: '08 E90 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bay Area

Posts: 518
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EndOfAnEra View Post
What's the difference between the E36 bumpstops, and the bumpstops that are included with the KW S/O kit?
E36 bumpstops are shorter
italyix is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-06-2013, 12:55 PM   #11
EndOfAnEra
First Lieutenant
 
EndOfAnEra's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 E92 328i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New Jersey

Posts: 316
iTrader: (2)

Send a message via Yahoo to EndOfAnEra
Oh alright, thanks for the info.
EndOfAnEra is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-20-2014, 04:35 PM   #12
B8bydesign
Second Lieutenant
 
B8bydesign's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 M3 Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville/Charlotte/Pittsburgh

Posts: 294
iTrader: (0)

Is there any advantage to running e36 bumpstops with the KW S/O kit vs the ones that come with it?
__________________
New: '11.5 e92 M3 | DCT | Mineral White/Novillo | ZCP | ZCV | ZCW | ZP2 | M Perf Gloss Black Kidneys | M Perf Carbon Splitters | M Perf Carbon Mirrors | MPE | iND Gloss Black Side Markers | iND MW Front Reflectors | iND DCT Billet Shifters | KW Sleeve Kit | Challenge Urethane ST Front Spoiler | Metak Rear Diffuser

Old: '11 Audi S4 | Prestige | Roc-Euro | AWE | Escort | APR | KW | OSIR | Rotiform
B8bydesign is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-21-2014, 12:15 AM   #13
ILSMKU
BMW FTW
 
ILSMKU's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ///OC

Posts: 1,637
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by B8bydesign View Post
Is there any advantage to running e36 bumpstops with the KW S/O kit vs the ones that come with it?
Im pretty sure the KW ones are just as small as the E36 ones.
__________________
///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
ILSMKU is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      06-21-2014, 01:09 AM   #14
ottoblotto
///M-Flight Bavaria
 
ottoblotto's Avatar
 
Drives: E90M3
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Im around

Posts: 1,190
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2010 BMW X5  [0.00]
2011.75 BMW M3 E90  [5.00]
So I purchased a KW Sleeve kit and am wondering if I should get the E36 bumpstops then??? If so, anyone got a link where we can purchase them? Seriously though, what is the advantage of them being shorter? (Sorry, suspension noob)
__________________
"With great power comes great responsibility." -El-Superbeasto
ottoblotto is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      06-21-2014, 09:30 AM   #15
B8bydesign
Second Lieutenant
 
B8bydesign's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 M3 Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville/Charlotte/Pittsburgh

Posts: 294
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ottoblotto View Post
So I purchased a KW Sleeve kit and am wondering if I should get the E36 bumpstops then??? If so, anyone got a link where we can purchase them? Seriously though, what is the advantage of them being shorter? (Sorry, suspension noob)
Exactly what I'm wondering as well. But if they're the same as the e36 bumpstops like ILSMKU mentioned above, then I guess there's no point.

Here's a link to them: http://www.hpashop.com/BMW-E36-M3-Bu...ump-stopts.htm
__________________
New: '11.5 e92 M3 | DCT | Mineral White/Novillo | ZCP | ZCV | ZCW | ZP2 | M Perf Gloss Black Kidneys | M Perf Carbon Splitters | M Perf Carbon Mirrors | MPE | iND Gloss Black Side Markers | iND MW Front Reflectors | iND DCT Billet Shifters | KW Sleeve Kit | Challenge Urethane ST Front Spoiler | Metak Rear Diffuser

Old: '11 Audi S4 | Prestige | Roc-Euro | AWE | Escort | APR | KW | OSIR | Rotiform
B8bydesign is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-22-2014, 10:04 AM   #16
Sebringjetta
Colonel
 
Sebringjetta's Avatar
 
Drives: E46m3
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Sacramento

Posts: 2,641
iTrader: (28)

Quote:
Originally Posted by slicer View Post
If you do some research you will find that the performance with lowering springs and stock shocks will worsen the lower you go. The ride height on the car in the link was achieved with coil-overs and I would bet that the ride quality will suck if you tried to go that low with the spring-over kit. Even with coilovers that ride-height is very impractical. I had mine set almost that low and I was scraping often. It looks cool but it takes away from the driving experience.
+1
__________________
Sebringjetta is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-22-2014, 10:09 AM   #17
tdott
Lieutenant
 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: T.Dot

Posts: 431
iTrader: (1)

I think that's too low for a sleeve kit. It won't ride well. Probably be pretty bouncy and will kill the stock strut/shock pretty quickly, making it even more bouncy once that happens.

To be that low you need stiffer springs and dampening to match.
tdott is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST