Courtesy Between M3 Owners. What's up with all the hate?

E93S65 · 02-05-2013, 11:11 AM

I get the "hate" we get from others, but between BMW E9x M3 owners?

Back in the day, BMW owners used to flash each other and it was understood. It was rare to see other BMW owners.......

Today, I pull up beside another MW E92M3 in my Black E93M3 and give him a thumb up. He flips me off and takes off.....WTF?

Do we need to be like this to each other?

This is even evident between BMW owners that have older Model Year BMW's. They look at you like, "what? you think you're better than us non-M3 owners?" I get this all the time when filling up.....

Before you think that it's me, this was never a case when driving my other +15 non-M BMW's over the years.....

llis · 02-05-2013, 11:25 AM

I haven't seen it from E9x M3 owners. Maybe he was having a bad day?

I've seen this from E46 M3 owners, but very rarely, and not usually the finger, just a kind of "yours is not a real M3" attitude.

Just wait until the F80 comes out. Will we be the same way?

baba louey · 02-05-2013, 11:42 AM

Having recently acquired my M3 (6months ago), I do notice other M3s and give them a good 'once over' to see if I like the look. I hardly notice other BMWs unless it's a sporty model (Z3,4). BMW's goal is to sell the most cars in the world and considering that 25% of the cars on my block are BMWs, they just might be achieving that. BMWs are getting as ubiquitous as Toyotas or GMs so I'm noticing them less.

mdosu · 02-05-2013, 11:53 AM

i've never been flipped off, but have noticed a general cold shoulder. There's no brotherhood with M car ownership in comparison to Evo or STi ownership.

Z4M guys don't wave at me, E46 guys think they're better than me, then when I'm washing my car on front of my house a Space Gray owner peel out on front of me showing off

okay, I'm just kidding about the last 2 parts (space gray peeling and E46), but seriously, no waves, no hellos. A few times I've gotten flashes or waves, but like 5 times in the last 2 years of ownership.

1MOREMOD · 02-05-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

i've never been flipped off, but have noticed a general cold shoulder. There's no brotherhood with M car ownership in comparison to Evo or STi ownership.

Z4M guys don't wave at me, E46 guys think they're better than me, then when I'm washing my car on front of my house a Space Gray owner peel out on front of me showing off

okay, I'm just kidding about the last 2 parts (space gray peeling and E46), but seriously, no waves, no hellos. A few times I've gotten flashes or waves, but like 5 times in the last 2 years of ownership.

e46 guys are better than you. plus you dont own an m5. what a loser. flashes?

mdosu · 02-05-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

e46 guys are better than you. plus you dont own an m5. what a loser. flashes?

depends on if i still have my driving privileges, how do you like my subtag under my username, above my avatar?

Team Plutonium · 02-05-2013, 12:01 PM

Only love and thumps up here... from the toddler to the grandma. Ricers and Volvos...

CanAutM3 · 02-05-2013, 12:10 PM

Not getting much hate around here either

. Mostly thumbs-up from all sorts of folks including other M3s

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1MOREMOD · 02-05-2013, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosu

depends on if i still have my driving privileges, how do you like my subtag under my username, above my avatar?

nice.

Technic · 02-05-2013, 12:21 PM

IMO, this M3 generation is less about performance than for showing off how much money was spent for it. Too many nouveau riche have E9x M3 thus this behavior.

Miami is full of these guys.

Yes, I said it.

ms372 · 02-05-2013, 12:22 PM

all i get is thumbs up from other m3 drivers, as for 335 guys i get a lot of bad looks, honda civic guys with mufflers are the worst they always try to race you. VW/audi guys are super nice they always ask me to rev it.

E90M3velocity · 02-05-2013, 12:28 PM

I get regular bmw's passing me hella quick on the freeway and slow to normal speeds once they do. I see a couple e9x m3's in alameda, they either ignore or just look at me...

mdosu · 02-05-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by E90M3velocity

or just look at me...

they're saying...wtf, I thought I was the only one with this car fml...lol

rslavujevic · 02-05-2013, 12:32 PM

I got a thumbs up from Felipe Massa the other day as he was sitting on a traffic light in his Ferrari FF

flanast · 02-05-2013, 12:43 PM

I see this as not lack of courtesy between M3 owners no matter what model. This is simply a problem with lack of courtesy in general in our culture.

Kwando · 02-05-2013, 12:46 PM

I miss the enthusiast comradery. Not sure where it went off to. When the GTR first came out I gave him a thumbs up and he responded by nearly running me off the road swerving in front of me to get on to the exit ramp. Thankfully I have a ninja like response time.

Gmower · 02-05-2013, 12:49 PM

For some reason I get the most love from Porsche owners and confused looks from ford/gm owners. I think we all know the look, how does a BMW sound that good?

Moxie · 02-05-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms372

all i get is thumbs up from other m3 drivers, as for 335 guys i get a lot of bad looks, honda civic guys with mufflers are the worst they always try to race you. VW/audi guys are super nice they always ask me to rev it.

Had a GT2 with a stock midpipe...I couldn't imagine how your set up sounds.

Lotta looks here - no waves from the stock M3's always get waves from the modded ones.

swartzentruber · 02-05-2013, 01:05 PM

Must be all the riff raff

Seriously though, I'm not sure what some of you are expecting (in terms of waves, thumbs up, etc.). I really never look at or attempt to interact with other drivers (unless it is to provide them with my own, uh, negative feedback). To me, it seems too likely any gestures could be misinterpreted, plus I'd rather spend time looking at the road, other traffic, etc., than paying attention to other drivers, regardless of what car they are driving.

e92livin · 02-05-2013, 01:12 PM

I give the thumps up or flash my headlamps whenever i see a M3 in fact E36,E46 OR E9x

///M Power-Belgium · 02-05-2013, 01:13 PM

///M3 drivers have no friends...vvvvvvvvv

lenzm3edan · 02-05-2013, 01:20 PM

I get thumbs up most of the time from BMW and different vehicles. OP just laugh it off, some people are just plain miserable.

02-05-2013, 11:11 AM	#1
E93S65 BMWCCA #142023 Drives: 2013 M3 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	Courtesy Between M3 Owners. What's up with all the hate? I get the "hate" we get from others, but between BMW E9x M3 owners? Back in the day, BMW owners used to flash each other and it was understood. It was rare to see other BMW owners....... Today, I pull up beside another MW E92M3 in my Black E93M3 and give him a thumb up. He flips me off and takes off.....WTF? Do we need to be like this to each other? This is even evident between BMW owners that have older Model Year BMW's. They look at you like, "what? you think you're better than us non-M3 owners?" I get this all the time when filling up..... Before you think that it's me, this was never a case when driving my other +15 non-M BMW's over the years.....
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02-05-2013, 11:25 AM	#2
llis snarkarina Drives: M3s Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 998 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [5.00] 1998 BMW M3 (GTS-2) [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	I haven't seen it from E9x M3 owners. Maybe he was having a bad day? I've seen this from E46 M3 owners, but very rarely, and not usually the finger, just a kind of "yours is not a real M3" attitude. Just wait until the F80 comes out. Will we be the same way? __________________ 2013 E92 ///M3 ZCP 6MT » 1998 E36 ///M3 [GTS-2] Toot Sweet Racing

02-05-2013, 11:53 AM	#4
mdosu Help! Can't decide btw MW & AW, 1st world problems Drives: 2008.99989 SSII E90 "Civic" Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,903 iTrader: (4)	i've never been flipped off, but have noticed a general cold shoulder. There's no brotherhood with M car ownership in comparison to Evo or STi ownership. Z4M guys don't wave at me, E46 guys think they're better than me, then when I'm washing my car on front of my house a Space Gray owner peel out on front of me showing off okay, I'm just kidding about the last 2 parts (space gray peeling and E46), but seriously, no waves, no hellos. A few times I've gotten flashes or waves, but like 5 times in the last 2 years of ownership. __________________ Yes, that's a xmas tree in my trunk

02-05-2013, 12:01 PM	#7
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,490 iTrader: (1)	Only love and thumps up here... from the toddler to the grandma. Ricers and Volvos... __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

02-05-2013, 12:21 PM	#10
Technic Major General Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2010 CC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 9,805 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2004 M3 [0.00]	IMO, this M3 generation is less about performance than for showing off how much money was spent for it. Too many nouveau riche have E9x M3 thus this behavior. Miami is full of these guys. Yes, I said it. __________________ -2012 E92 M3 Jerez Black/Rust Brown, M-DCT: September ED -2008 E90 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo, 6MT: Gone -2007 MK5 GTI United Grey/Grey, DSG: Gone -2004 E46 M3 Carbon Black/Cinnamon, 6MT: Gone -2002 E46 330i Orient Blue/Natural Brown, 5MT: Gone

02-05-2013, 11:42 AM	#3
baba louey Private First Class Drives: 2012 M3 coupe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: calgary Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	Having recently acquired my M3 (6months ago), I do notice other M3s and give them a good 'once over' to see if I like the look. I hardly notice other BMWs unless it's a sporty model (Z3,4). BMW's goal is to sell the most cars in the world and considering that 25% of the cars on my block are BMWs, they just might be achieving that. BMWs are getting as ubiquitous as Toyotas or GMs so I'm noticing them less.

02-05-2013, 12:10 PM	#8
CanAutM3 Major Drives: 2008 E92 M3 SS2 DCT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,254 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 Audi S4 [0.00] 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Not getting much hate around here either . Mostly thumbs-up from all sorts of folks including other M3s .

02-05-2013, 12:22 PM	#11
ms372 Captain Drives: AW E92 m3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 682 iTrader: (0)	all i get is thumbs up from other m3 drivers, as for 335 guys i get a lot of bad looks, honda civic guys with mufflers are the worst they always try to race you. VW/audi guys are super nice they always ask me to rev it. __________________ ESS Tune \| Challenge sport x-pipe \| Meisterschaft GT2 (FOR SALE!) \| Dinan Intake \| Evosport pulley\| Vorsteiner \| Platte Forme A.G. \|Gintani \| UUC \| BMW Performance \| Macht Schnell GT2 Muffler (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=829307)

02-05-2013, 12:28 PM	#12
E90M3velocity Private Drives: Silverstone II E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 60 iTrader: (1)	I get regular bmw's passing me hella quick on the freeway and slow to normal speeds once they do. I see a couple e9x m3's in alameda, they either ignore or just look at me... __________________

02-05-2013, 12:32 PM	#14
rslavujevic Private Drives: '13 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 88 iTrader: (1)	I got a thumbs up from Felipe Massa the other day as he was sitting on a traffic light in his Ferrari FF

02-05-2013, 12:43 PM	#15
flanast Private Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 99 iTrader: (0)	I see this as not lack of courtesy between M3 owners no matter what model. This is simply a problem with lack of courtesy in general in our culture.

02-05-2013, 12:46 PM	#16
Kwando Lieutenant Drives: plus oil Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London Posts: 445 iTrader: (0)	I miss the enthusiast comradery. Not sure where it went off to. When the GTR first came out I gave him a thumbs up and he responded by nearly running me off the road swerving in front of me to get on to the exit ramp. Thankfully I have a ninja like response time.

02-05-2013, 12:49 PM	#17
Gmower New Member Drives: 2012 E92 - 6MT, ZCP, CF Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	For some reason I get the most love from Porsche owners and confused looks from ford/gm owners. I think we all know the look, how does a BMW sound that good?

02-05-2013, 01:05 PM	#19
swartzentruber Lieutenant Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago NW suburbs, IL Posts: 424 iTrader: (0)	Must be all the riff raff Seriously though, I'm not sure what some of you are expecting (in terms of waves, thumbs up, etc.). I really never look at or attempt to interact with other drivers (unless it is to provide them with my own, uh, negative feedback). To me, it seems too likely any gestures could be misinterpreted, plus I'd rather spend time looking at the road, other traffic, etc., than paying attention to other drivers, regardless of what car they are driving. __________________ 2011 Jerez Black/Fox Red E90 M3 DCT, ZCP, ZCV, ZCW, ZP2, BMW Apps 2004 VW R32 (track car)

02-05-2013, 01:12 PM	#20
e92livin Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 259 iTrader: (2)	I give the thumps up or flash my headlamps whenever i see a M3 in fact E36,E46 OR E9x

02-05-2013, 01:13 PM	#21
///M Power-Belgium Captain Drives: ///M3-DCT- E92 Silverstone II Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 818 iTrader: (0)	///M3 drivers have no friends...vvvvvvvvv Attached Images

02-05-2013, 01:20 PM	#22
lenzm3edan First Pride Drives: E90, Mercedes ML 350, Outback Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 948 iTrader: (6)	I get thumbs up most of the time from BMW and different vehicles. OP just laugh it off, some people are just plain miserable. __________________ ESS VT-1 550 silverstone E90 /// M3 - 6spd - AD08 - Spacers - H&R - AA exhaust - Primary cat delete - Custom test pipes - ESS tune - Lighted ZHP.

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