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      08-30-2007, 06:51 AM   #1
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M3 Test in Autobild

New Autobild issue in Germany features a test where the M3 is compared to S5.
In short the author did like the M3 very much, his verdict was:
"The S5 impresses, the M3 wows..."

The numbers:

0-100 km/h: 4.9s
0-200 km/h: 15.7s

100-0km/h: 33.4m - 34m

fuel consumption: 13.2 l/100km (=17.8 mpg (US) - 21.4 mpg (UK))
which equals a reach of 480km


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      08-30-2007, 07:05 AM   #2
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excellent, best time yet.

more info, what times and fuel consumption for S5?

Any idea when the Autozeitung M3 test comes?
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      08-30-2007, 07:25 AM   #3
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Here are the S5 times:

0-100km/h: 5.1s
0-200km/h: 19.0s

100-0 km/h: 34.0m - 34.4m

Fuel consumption: 13.7 l /100 km (=17.2 mpg (US) - 20.6 mpg (UK))
reach: 460km

Autozeitung's M3 test comes next wednesday...

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      08-30-2007, 07:34 AM   #4
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thanks, the fuel con. is that numbers from the factory or is it meassured numbers?
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      08-30-2007, 07:46 AM   #5
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      08-30-2007, 07:56 AM   #6
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The fuel numbers are measured by Autobild

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      08-30-2007, 08:11 AM   #7
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then ints intresting that the M3 drinks less fuel than S5.
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      08-30-2007, 08:13 AM   #8
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Yeah, who needs DFI/FSI anymore?

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      08-30-2007, 08:45 AM   #9
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Yeah, who needs DFI/FSI anymore?

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Well, whatever savings DFI/FSI in the S5 is responsible for are probably offset by the losses due to AWD. And, I belive the S5 is slightly heavier?

Thanks for posting the numbers.
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South, any idea as to the price difference between the two cars? The S5 should hit the U.S. showrooms at about $60K fully loaded. Thanks
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Well, whatever savings DFI/FSI in the S5 is responsible for are probably offset by the losses due to AWD. And, I belive the S5 is slightly heavier?

Thanks for posting the numbers.
Well, it wasn't meant that serious...The S5 is 100kg heavier as tested.

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South, any idea as to the price difference between the two cars? The S5 should hit the U.S. showrooms at about $60K fully loaded. Thanks
I can tell you the German Base prices excl. VAT:
S5 46.975 €
M3 56.008 €

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I can tell you the German Base prices excl. VAT:
S5 46.975 €
M3 56.008 €

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Almost 10K Euros ($14K)! Thanks
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      08-30-2007, 11:59 AM   #13
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and how much for RS4 in germany?

Did Autobild rate the S5 to have better comfort and where there any slalom numbers?
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and how much for RS4 in germany?

Did Autobild rate the S5 to have better comfort and where there any slalom numbers?
RS4 costs 60.252 € excl. VAT

No slalom numbers in this Autobild test. S5 did get 2 points less than M3 in comfort rating. That must be due to the EDC they highly recommend for that matter...

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      08-30-2007, 12:53 PM   #15
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[quote=Just_me;1341606]excellent, best time yet.
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I'm sure I'm missing something here... which time are you talking about?
4.9s BMW's claimed time, isn't it?
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I'm sure I'm missing something here... which time are you talking about?
4.9s BMW's claimed time, isn't it?
Sorry for not being clear. Im speaking of 0-200km/h times. 0-100 doesnt intrest me much

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New Autobild issue in Germany features a test where the M3 is compared to S5.
In short the author did like the M3 very much, his verdict was:
"The S5 impresses, the M3 wows..."

The numbers:

0-100 km/h: 4.9s
0-200 km/h: 15.7s

100-0km/h: 33.4m - 34m

fuel consumption: 13.2 l/100km (=17.8 mpg (US) - 21.4 mpg (UK))
which equals a reach of 480km


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The comparison should have been between the 335 and the S5, not the M3 - even though the 335 is a 6 cylinder.
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      08-31-2007, 06:45 AM   #18
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One little, very unimportant info!

S5 won the test against M3!


Greatings to southlight

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S5 won the test against M3!


Greatings to southlight

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How did you find me here. I only now realized where I know you nickname from...

To be honest, the S5 won due to the lower costs compared to M3.
In total 472 points for the S5, 464 for the M3. Without costs the result is 355points for S5 and 367 for the M3.

Like the author said: The M3 wins, but only if it doesn't depend on a couple grands...

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      08-31-2007, 07:16 AM   #20
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S5 won the test against M3!


Greatings to southlight

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BUT: S5 won the test against the M3 "only" because of its lower costs in the cost branch and not because its the better car overall...the M3 is much much more sportscar than the S5...and the test(er)drive stated "if he had the chance to decide between the two he would to 100% go to his bank (or to his hereditary uncle) to get the M3 instead of the S5

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      08-31-2007, 07:44 AM   #21
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Errr I think the M3 won. Even if its a matter of cost these 2 cars are in the same cost bracket. If you can afford the S5 you can afford the M3 so the M3 won.
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Not completely on topic but: I wonder what mods exist for the 4.2L Audi V8? Can it be made to hit 400hp with bolt-ons?
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