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      02-01-2013, 11:45 AM   #23
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6.3L = 507 hp
4.0L = 414 hp

The engine is 50% greater than BMW S65 and still can't product impressive hp like BMW engine. Not for me.
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      02-01-2013, 12:42 PM   #24
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I say MSRP will be $87K
Haha no. A "regular" C63 Black Series is $125k. You think this will be less?

To everyone saying that's how limited editions should be built. Let me ask you think: Who here is actually going to fork out $120k for an M3? How many times have I heard oh no, the M4 is going to be 80k plus, I'd rather get a 911 for that price.

That's what I thought. Can't have it both ways.
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6.3L = 507 hp
4.0L = 414 hp

The engine is 50% greater than BMW S65 and still can't product impressive hp like BMW engine. Not for me.
Yep!

6.3 is about 80HP per L
4.0 is about 103HP per L
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Awesome car and actually worthy of the "Special Edition" status. Hopefully it has the blistered rear fenders from the BS to accomadate rubber wider than 295, which is very hard to fit on a standard C63.

Few things regarding some posts in this thread:

My brother is on his second C63 (12 Coupe with PP from an 09 Sedan Kleeman K1) and both have been rock solid in terms of reliability. They were never in the shop for anything other than standard, routine maintenance (tires/brakes/oil).

"Build it and they will come"... C63BS sold out, CLK63BS sold out, M3 GTS sold out, M3 CRT sold out, 1M (not as pricey, but still a low volume edition) sold out, etc etc. Just because one thinks the majority of people on this forum (already a small sliver of the owners community) wouldn't/couldn't buy one doesn't mean that a real BMW Special Edition for NA wouldn't be a success and sell out as well. Cars like these are not built for value-minded people, they're not performance bargains and they're not intended to be! Different strokes for different folks.

I'd also like to point out that the motor is actually 6.2L, and it's more than capable of churning out 100hp/L as evidenced by the SLS BS (631hp from 6.2L).

All that being said, I still prefer the driving feel and the transmission of the M3 leaps and bounds over the C63 and wouldn't trade!
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BMW does "Lime Rock," while Mercedes innovates. Nice car.

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Haha no. A "regular" C63 Black Series is $125k. You think this will be less?

To everyone saying that's how limited editions should be built. Let me ask you think: Who here is actually going to fork out $120k for an M3? How many times have I heard oh no, the M4 is going to be 80k plus, I'd rather get a 911 for that price.

That's what I thought. Can't have it both ways.
+1 The price will be over $87K. More horse power = more dollars.
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Still don't understand why a car of this caliber doesn't have mechanical LSD standard.
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      02-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #31
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What are the chances of BMW ever making a 500+ hp m3
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I'm a previous c63 owner and all I can say is never again. This is a frankenstein edition, a mix bag from stock and the BS. Maybe the saloon will look good but I could not get over that coupe. Try a test drive and you will get hook with the AMG sound alone but overtime, it disappoints specially knowing there is a better car out there. M3 rules!
you're going to have to explain more. You picked the M3 simply b/c it looks better than the C63 coupe? If that's the case, I think I need to switch to the C63, I think the new refresh looks fantastic in sedan form.
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problem is, the S65 needs more displacement to get more power. The M156 just needs lighter internals from the SLS AMG GT and bam, 507 hp.
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BMW M3 (German Corvette)
C63 AMG (German Mustang)

I'd take the M3 on any given day plus,
Lime Rock Edition M3 > C63 AMG 507324984 whatever they call it

That's my take
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Still don't understand why a car of this caliber doesn't have mechanical LSD standard.
Because 99.9% of AMG owners never track their cars.
They simply don't need one.
I'm sure many AMG owners do not know what difference it makes.
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When i first bought my M3 i wasnt really a C63 fan than a couple months later im drooling over them. lol
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      02-01-2013, 07:25 PM   #37
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These high powered C63s are a joke .. 507hp on 255 tires and no LSD? Oh, and an AUTOMATIC transmission!?
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These high powered C63s are a joke .. 507hp on 255 tires and no LSD? Oh, and an AUTOMATIC transmission!?
LOL I wouldn't say that at a traffic light sitting next to one...
If it came in a manual i'd test drive one. torque and small tires = fun!
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BMW does "Lime Rock," while Mercedes innovates. Nice car.

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BMW is aggressively researching new types of seat stitching and new color combinations...watch out!
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Thats what i'm talking about! If you're going to bring out a special edition... BRING IT!!
They get HP we get a car with orange paint. Lets not forget our DTM championship edition with black paint and over sized M stickers.
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This is what BMW is going to do next, offer next M with low HP number and offering performance packages
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6.3L = 507 hp
4.0L = 414 hp

The engine is 50% greater than BMW S65 and still can't product impressive hp like BMW engine. Not for me.
Wow.

I have great news for you!

Forget this M3 stuff and buy an early S2000 - for a lot less money. Then you can exult in the only thing that really matters to you - power per liter.

Just think. You can then thumb your nose at everybody except 458 owners! Cool!

Bruce

PS - Let me guess. You got this "Power per liter rules" commentary at a cocktail party, right?
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