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      12-29-2012, 08:34 PM   #45
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There is not one good long term study on steroids to show that they are bad when used properly. And for those who don't know, its not the steroids that hurt people its the abuse of them and the improper use. The side effects come from not properly cycling off. You need to follow a strict PCT (post cycle therapy). 6-8 weeks on and 6-8 weeks off with a proper PCT.
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      12-29-2012, 09:19 PM   #46
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I don't think you guys discovered long ester tren. Now that shit fuckkkkssss you up haha.
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      12-30-2012, 01:30 PM   #47
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I don't think you guys discovered long ester tren. Now that shit fuckkkkssss you up haha.
I definitely know about tren
I just prefer not too run it myself.
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      12-30-2012, 05:48 PM   #48
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Orals, no matter how good you cycle, will catch up to you in the end one way or another.

For years I took orals (with a proper cycle, no abuse, proper pct) including M1T, SUS, tren, tren x, etc etc and had problems like blood and protein in the urine. Once I stopped the orals, the problems went away. Were my problems isolated? Maybe, but once you know the risks associated with orals in general you stay away from them
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      12-30-2012, 09:06 PM   #49
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I would say orals are worse then actual injections...

They put methyl 17 something in it so the liver doesn't kill the compound which in terms rapes your liver. Thus the blood and protein in your pee.

Nothing like a good anadrol kick start though.


Oh and yeh stay away from tren if you don't know what you're doing. Can you say limp wee wee for months/ no sex drive.
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      12-31-2012, 02:18 PM   #50
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$6k a year, visit your doctor, you need to be over 35
Results are amazing, improved though function, improves stress ability, gets rid of depression and oh yeah if you work out 3 times a week you look jacked quickly.
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$6k a year
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      12-31-2012, 06:57 PM   #51
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$6k a year, visit your doctor, you need to be over 35
Results are amazing, improved though function, improves stress ability, gets rid of depression and oh yeah if you work out 3 times a week you look jacked quickly.
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500 bucks a month?! What the hell is costing that much?? That better be full hgh, test and some hcg.
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      01-14-2013, 04:24 AM   #52
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Test boosters donít show results overnight. You're right; it takes a few days for the effects to show up, no matter how good the supplement is. Even Ageless Male, a safe testosterone booster with hardly any side effects did not produce results immediately. But with consistent use and regular exercise, I noticed subtle changes in a couple of weeks. This guy made a video testimonial for Ageless Male.

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      01-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #53
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I dont know what anyone else has said on here but NO test booster is going to make you really feel it in the gym other than maybe alil more stamina and able to get through those workouts that were tough before.

Reason for this is becaues the test booster is so minimal and for most it won't even work because a true test booster only works on certain people.

Now if you want to take actual test than hell yea you are going to feel it.
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arms swell, balls go to hell

srsly, the body is lazy. if you're taking testosterone, your body is tricked into thinking it doesn't need to produce any, and your balls become raisins
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      01-28-2013, 09:35 PM   #55
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arms swell, balls go to hell

srsly, the body is lazy. if you're taking testosterone, your body is tricked into thinking it doesn't need to produce any, and your balls become raisins
And that's why you supplement with hcg to counter the shrinkage.
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True hcg not that shit you can get at supplement stores they call hcg
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And that's why you supplement with hcg to counter the shrinkage.
pills for life, no thanks. but let's get together for lunch when we're 90 and let me know how it goes for you

anyway, not my thing at all: done here

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      01-28-2013, 10:55 PM   #58
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Testosterone supplements can help one bulk up and improve the muscles while working out in a gym.
no shit.
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      01-29-2013, 10:17 AM   #59
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pills for life, no thanks. but let's get together for lunch when we're 90 and let me know how it goes for you

anyway, not my thing at all: done here
Pills for life??
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
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      01-29-2013, 10:27 AM   #60
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srsly, the body is lazy. if you're taking testosterone, your body is tricked into thinking it doesn't need to produce any, and your balls become raisins
Not exactly how that works. I've been through many PH's and test with no shrinkage. True, my body produces very little testosterone on its own anymore, but no shrinkage ever. Like others said here, it's all about proper PCT to manage side effects.
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      01-29-2013, 10:28 AM   #61
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My current regime is 150MG of Test Cypiante for week and a slight dose of anastrozole(.2MG) per week.

My bloodwork as of yesterday was: T=962, E=27

I feel amazing!
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      01-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #62
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My current regime is 150MG of Test Cypiante for week and a slight dose of anastrozole(.2MG) per week.

My bloodwork as of yesterday was: T=962, E=27

I feel amazing!
much like a dyno chart, them are some good numbers! Doc has me on 4 pumps of androgel each day and i maintain in the 700's.
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      01-29-2013, 03:05 PM   #63
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My current regime is 150MG of Test Cypiante for week and a slight dose of anastrozole(.2MG) per week.

My bloodwork as of yesterday was: T=962, E=27

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much like a dyno chart, them are some good numbers! Doc has me on 4 pumps of androgel each day and i maintain in the 700's.
Is the 962 and 700 number your total test or free test? Total test I hope
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      01-29-2013, 03:46 PM   #64
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Is the 962 and 700 number your total test or free test? Total test I hope
LOL, yes total
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good numbers. like high school again.
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I will up to 200MG per week in the spring when I start cutting for summer. Test should jump to around 1500 at that dose then when I get lean I'll taper back down to my regular dose. If you are under 40 I recommend running HCG at 250-500iu per week to maintain testicular size/function. Without it your nuts will shrivel up into raisins.

if you get your Total T to around 1000 and keep it there life is great!

Your wife or GF will learn what "tapping out" means!
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