Carbon Roof vs Moonroof - Page 2

gblansten · 01-27-2013, 06:20 PM

I always wear thin and lightweight clothes when I drive so that I can extract further performance gains. I also use Golytely but will spare you the details on that. If anyone wants to get in on a group buy on ///M Performance Golytely let me know.

MKE_M3 · 01-27-2013, 06:29 PM

The increase in head room w/o the moon roof alone is worth it. Hard to be comfortable with a helmet on in a moon roof car (I'm only 5'11"), and yes I have plenty of experience in both

1MOREMOD · 01-27-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

I always wear thin and lightweight clothes when I drive so that I can extract further performance gains. I also use Golytely but will spare you the details on that. If anyone wants to get in on a group buy on ///M Performance Golytely let me know.

nice i like your dedication. i can be a supplier for this endevour.

gblansten · 01-27-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

nice i like your dedication. i can be a supplier for this endevour.

Denk · 01-27-2013, 06:45 PM

I went w/CF roof mainly for the extra clearance. At 6'4" I need space for my afro...the CF roof looks awesome period and it does lower the center of gravity whether or not we'd notice. It's a win win...and win for me.

w00tw00t · 01-27-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

if i had a choice in my e90 i would take the carbon roof as the moonroof decreases headroom once i have a helmet on making my seating postion not as perfect as i would like.

despite a moonroof... 1moremod still goes around a track 3-4 seconds faster than me .. I have a carbon roof but still can't keep up ....

its all about the driver...

however performance aside.... a M3 has to have a carbon roof...

1MOREMOD · 01-27-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by w00tw00t

despite a moonroof... 1moremod still goes around a track 3-4 seconds faster than me .. I have a carbon roof but still can't keep up ....

its all about the driver...

however performance aside.... a M3 has to have a carbon roof...

haha thanks. dont forget the stock brakes too! and its an e90 fat pig.

w00tw00t · 01-27-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

haha thanks. dont forget the stock brakes too! and its an e90 fat pig.

need more seat time!!... one day soon I'll as fast or faster

1MOREMOD · 01-27-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by w00tw00t

need more seat time!!... one day soon I'll as fast or faster

No way. I will be in the 1:34-1:35s by then!

Crypty · 01-27-2013, 07:43 PM

For me the CF adds some much appreciated sportiness and uniqueness. On a black m3 idk how it would look(probably not like much) but on my interlagos blue it's stunning. Definitely don't miss the sunroof.

Poppin Fresh · 01-27-2013, 07:48 PM

A good enema before you get in your M3 should give you minus 1-2 lbs. depending on what you ate last night.

biggynuts01 · 01-27-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic311

A little lighter??? its 45lbs lighter at the most criticial point of the car its center of gravity.. What comparision are you exactly looking for?

The argument can be made that most mods on this car are bling..this is not one of them..its functional, its factory and its free..what else need I say

Well put. If you can get the CF roof for free....get it. The cost to shave 45 lbs in any other way is just ridiculous, plus CF is unique.

SROC5 · 01-27-2013, 08:04 PM

for AW cars, it's a must have item.

mscdman · 01-27-2013, 08:10 PM

I think the carbon fiber roof is ugly as hell. It looks ricey to me. I went with a moonroof specifically because its functional.

Koop · 01-27-2013, 08:28 PM

There's a great little display next to the i8 concept car in the Welt that helped me put the carbon roof into perspective.

3 cylinders with handles on top are filled with equal amounts of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber (respectively). Next to these are ruler-sized strips of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber. The strips are secured on one side and allowed to move freely on the other.

By picking up the cylinders of the different materials and bending the strips you get a great idea of their respective weights and stiffness. The steel was super heavy and super bendy, the aluminum was less so on both accounts and the carbon was light as a feather and ultra-stiff.

Not the most scientific comparison, of course, but it helps illustrate why a carbon fiber roof is a good idea.

I could take or leave the exposed carbon fiber...personally I wouldn't mind my carbon roof to be painted the same color as the body of my car. Regardless of how effective it is in the real world, I think it shows the attention to detail that went into the design of this car and I'd never sacrifice it for a moonroof.

heart_doctor · 01-27-2013, 08:33 PM

Get what you like, I got the moonroof because I like it and use it .....

MineralWeiss · 01-27-2013, 08:39 PM

I went with the moonroof because I actually wanted a convertible, but my wife doesn't enjoy top-down driving like me so the moonroof was a good compromise. And I don't think there is really much of a performance issue. All this concern about weight savings, but most people option out their car adding several pounds anyway. If you're really hardcore, then go all the way and get a basic model.

sycd · 01-27-2013, 08:43 PM

I can see why some people would prefer moonroof over CF if they suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

baba louey · 01-27-2013, 08:57 PM

90% of the people who see my car for the first time comment about the CF roof. The comments are all +ve. I'll guess that no one would make a comment if I had a moon/sun roof. My car is melbourne red and I'm still floored with how stunning it looks.

jeff4598 · 01-27-2013, 09:02 PM

I find spitting on the ground before I get in improves lap times by 0.0002-0.0003 seconds on average. My stop watch is not sensitive enough to detect difference after passing gas prior to entry(always prior) but I'm sure it's there. Come to think of it having the moonroof allows the emission of bodily gases with less consequence and on a long drive after a big meal this COULD lead to a mesurable difference in lap times- so there you have it moonroof is faster- I'm done.

w00tw00t · 01-27-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

No way. I will be in the 1:34-1:35s by then!

we shall see

Vic311 · 01-27-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by biggynuts01

Well put. If you can get the CF roof for free....get it. The cost to shave 45 lbs in any other way is just ridiculous, plus CF is unique.

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Originally Posted by baba louey

90% of the people who see my car for the first time comment about the CF roof. The comments are all +ve. I'll guess that no one would make a comment if I had a moon/sun roof. My car is melbourne red and I'm still floored with how stunning it looks.

Rightfully so..the M3 coupe was one of the first production cars to include CF roof as an option.. Sexiest part of the car

01-27-2013, 06:29 PM	#24
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,503 iTrader: (0)	The increase in head room w/o the moon roof alone is worth it. Hard to be comfortable with a helmet on in a moon roof car (I'm only 5'11"), and yes I have plenty of experience in both __________________ M in love

01-27-2013, 07:43 PM	#32
Crypty Private First Class Drives: '08 IB e92 M3 + CF Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: North Jersey Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	For me the CF adds some much appreciated sportiness and uniqueness. On a black m3 idk how it would look(probably not like much) but on my interlagos blue it's stunning. Definitely don't miss the sunroof. __________________ Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

01-27-2013, 07:48 PM	#33
Poppin Fresh Colonel Drives: With a sunroof and front plate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bergen County NJ Posts: 2,057 iTrader: (0)	A good enema before you get in your M3 should give you minus 1-2 lbs. depending on what you ate last night. __________________

01-27-2013, 08:04 PM	#35
SROC5 Addicted to Track Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USCON Posts: 1,310 iTrader: (3)	for AW cars, it's a must have item. __________________ ZCP E92 M3 \| Akrapovic Evo \| ESSi \| Swift Spec-R \| APEX ARC-8 \| RS-3 \| PFC-08 \| MS Filter \| MS Spacers \|

01-27-2013, 08:28 PM	#37
Koop Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 & E34 M5 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United States Posts: 213 iTrader: (0)	There's a great little display next to the i8 concept car in the Welt that helped me put the carbon roof into perspective. 3 cylinders with handles on top are filled with equal amounts of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber (respectively). Next to these are ruler-sized strips of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber. The strips are secured on one side and allowed to move freely on the other. By picking up the cylinders of the different materials and bending the strips you get a great idea of their respective weights and stiffness. The steel was super heavy and super bendy, the aluminum was less so on both accounts and the carbon was light as a feather and ultra-stiff. Not the most scientific comparison, of course, but it helps illustrate why a carbon fiber roof is a good idea. I could take or leave the exposed carbon fiber...personally I wouldn't mind my carbon roof to be painted the same color as the body of my car. Regardless of how effective it is in the real world, I think it shows the attention to detail that went into the design of this car and I'd never sacrifice it for a moonroof. __________________ /// E92 M3 Individual - Azurite/Rust ~ E34 M5 - Brilliant Red/Silver Gray

01-27-2013, 06:20 PM	#23
gblansten Captain Obvious Drives: 2011 BMW M3 SSII/Black Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thick ascending limb Posts: 1,288 iTrader: (0)	I always wear thin and lightweight clothes when I drive so that I can extract further performance gains. I also use Golytely but will spare you the details on that. If anyone wants to get in on a group buy on ///M Performance Golytely let me know.

01-27-2013, 06:45 PM	#27
Denk Major Drives: 2013 SSII e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,167 iTrader: (0)	I went w/CF roof mainly for the extra clearance. At 6'4" I need space for my afro...the CF roof looks awesome period and it does lower the center of gravity whether or not we'd notice. It's a win win...and win for me.

01-27-2013, 08:10 PM	#36
mscdman Private First Class Drives: 335xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 147 iTrader: (0)	I think the carbon fiber roof is ugly as hell. It looks ricey to me. I went with a moonroof specifically because its functional.

01-27-2013, 08:33 PM	#38
heart_doctor Private First Class Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 164 iTrader: (0)	Get what you like, I got the moonroof because I like it and use it ..... __________________

01-27-2013, 08:39 PM	#39
MineralWeiss USAF Retired Drives: 2011 BMW M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 202 iTrader: (0)	I went with the moonroof because I actually wanted a convertible, but my wife doesn't enjoy top-down driving like me so the moonroof was a good compromise. And I don't think there is really much of a performance issue. All this concern about weight savings, but most people option out their car adding several pounds anyway. If you're really hardcore, then go all the way and get a basic model. Last edited by MineralWeiss; 01-27-2013 at 10:26 PM. Reason: Typos

01-27-2013, 08:43 PM	#40
sycd First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 396 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X5 xDrive50i [0.00] 2012 BMW M3 [E92] [0.00]	I can see why some people would prefer moonroof over CF if they suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome. __________________ 2013 Mini Cooper S Hardtop \| Kite Blue \| 6spd Manual \| Factory JCW Exterior Pkg 2013 X5 xDrive50i \| Carbon Black \| M Sport + M Perf, 333M Wheels Sold: 2012 E92 M3 \| Jet Black, Fox Red/Black \| DCT, ZCP

01-27-2013, 08:57 PM	#41
baba louey Private First Class Drives: 2012 M3 coupe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: calgary Posts: 154 iTrader: (0)	90% of the people who see my car for the first time comment about the CF roof. The comments are all +ve. I'll guess that no one would make a comment if I had a moon/sun roof. My car is melbourne red and I'm still floored with how stunning it looks.

01-27-2013, 09:02 PM	#42
jeff4598 First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 e90 AW/BB lotsa Dinan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new jersey Posts: 366 iTrader: (0)	I find spitting on the ground before I get in improves lap times by 0.0002-0.0003 seconds on average. My stop watch is not sensitive enough to detect difference after passing gas prior to entry(always prior) but I'm sure it's there. Come to think of it having the moonroof allows the emission of bodily gases with less consequence and on a long drive after a big meal this COULD lead to a mesurable difference in lap times- so there you have it moonroof is faster- I'm done.

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