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      01-25-2013, 10:46 AM   #1
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MT Drivers: What Gear Do you Leave Your Car in When Parked?

Always used to leave in first as with every other car I've owned, but now I think it looks more aesthetically pleasing left in 2nd!
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      01-25-2013, 10:47 AM   #2
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Oops. Poll didn't work. How do you add a poll after posting?
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      01-25-2013, 11:11 AM   #3
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I always left mine in 2nd.
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this thread fits your screenname to a T
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Always in 1st and no rhyme or reason to it, but I'm curious as to why leave it in 2nd?
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I thought it was his other thread complaining about the indicator stalk
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I leave mine in 1st
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1st for me. Not really sure too many people care how pleasing it looks in 2nd, but to each their own.
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If my car is pointing uphill = 1st gear + Hand Brake
If my car pointing downhill = Reverse + Hand Brake
Other situations (flat) = Hand Brake only
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If my car is pointing uphill = 1st gear + Hand Brake
If my car pointing downhill = Reverse + Hand Brake
Other situations = Hand Brake only
+1 exactly how i do it... its a noob question but is there any damage to the trans or e brake when its only left parked with just the e brake on and not put into ant gear when parked on a flat??
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+1 exactly how i do it... its a noob question but is there any damage to the trans or e brake when its only left parked with just the e brake on and not put into ant gear when parked on a flat??
Answer is no. And put on your flame suit.
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If my car is pointing uphill = 1st gear + Hand Brake
If my car pointing downhill = Reverse + Hand Brake
Other situations (flat) = Hand Brake only
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1st, but then again I live in Houston, so wtf is a hill?
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+1 exactly how i do it... its a noob question but is there any damage to the trans or e brake when its only left parked with just the e brake on and not put into ant gear when parked on a flat??

; that would be neutral

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i have never left it in gear... just handbrake only. is there a logical reason or technical reason to leave it in gear? this is a serious question because i seriously don't know
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i have never left it in gear... just handbrake only. is there a logical reason or technical reason to leave it in gear? this is a serious question because i seriously don't know

yes, as it won't allow the car to move if the (weak) handbrake fails to hold the car. Sometimes cars roll. It's to each his own, leave in gear or neutral. But on inclines I would not trust the ebrake and leave in gear
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      01-25-2013, 01:16 PM   #18
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The 6MT M3 has a gear specifically designed to be used while parking, regardless of incline and direction. It's undocumented, but you put the shifter in the hidden gate directly underneath Reverse.

Seriously though, 1st when pointing uphill, Reverse when pointing downhill, and I'll typically put it in 1st when level just out of habit. I don't think there's much difference between 1st and 2nd except that 1st gives more resistance, with the tradeoff that it could theoretically put more strain on the gearbox.

Leaving it in Neutral definitely will NOT cause any problems with the gearbox (just the opposite in fact, Neutral is the easiest on the gearbox of all options), but if you want maximum hold resistance AND very little strain on the gearbox, when parking on a hill, follow this procedure:

1. Get your car parked and your wheels turned whichever way is appropriate for the direction of your incline.

2. Clutch in, foot on the brake, shift to Neutral.

3. Pull parking brake all the way, release foot brake. The car will roll slightly and rest on the parking brake.

4. Shift into 1st or Reverse as appropriate, turn engine off, clutch out.

That way you put all of the resistance load on the brakes rather than the gearbox, but the gearbox is still engaged to provide a backup source of resistance if the brakes fail somehow. If you park the way most people do when lazy, i.e. turning the engine off with your foot still on the brake and the car in gear, the car will stop rolling sooner after you let off the foot brake because the gearbox catches faster than the parking brake (assuming you even set the parking brake), but then you've got strain on your gearbox.

Note that the above procedure minus the clutch work and shifting to P in the end would deliver the same benefits to a car with DCT or even a slushbox too.
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If my car is pointing uphill = 1st gear + Hand Brake
If my car pointing downhill = Reverse + Hand Brake
Other situations (flat) = Hand Brake only
Exactly what I do. And since this thread is based on OCD ill exacerbate it. If you are parked in gear and someone drives into your car with enough force, it could theoretically damage your drive train.
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Uphill = 1st gear
Downhill = reverse gear

Always leave ebrake on no matter what.
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The 6MT M3 has a gear specifically designed to be used while parking, regardless of incline and direction. It's undocumented, but you put the shifter in the hidden gate directly underneath Reverse.

Seriously though, 1st when pointing uphill, Reverse when pointing downhill, and I'll typically put it in 1st when level just out of habit. I don't think there's much difference between 1st and 2nd except that 1st gives more resistance, with the tradeoff that it could theoretically put more strain on the gearbox.

Leaving it in Neutral definitely will NOT cause any problems with the gearbox (just the opposite in fact, Neutral is the easiest on the gearbox of all options), but if you want maximum hold resistance AND very little strain on the gearbox, when parking on a hill, follow this procedure:

1. Get your car parked and your wheels turned whichever way is appropriate for the direction of your incline.

2. Clutch in, foot on the brake, shift to Neutral.

3. Pull parking brake all the way, release foot brake. The car will roll slightly and rest on the emergency brake.

4. Shift into 1st or Reverse as appropriate, turn engine off, clutch out.

That way you put all of the resistance load on the brakes rather than the gearbox, but the gearbox is still engaged to provide a backup source of resistance if the brakes fail somehow.
awesome guide. will definitely follow
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