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SpeedyM3 · 01-20-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mpm3

man oh man i feel your pain, painting is not easy same thing happened on my E90 bumper shitty job, not to change the topic but those snow wheels look really good

Haha thanks, they are the BMW recommended winter shoes

Raja Ventureshield · 01-20-2013, 06:51 PM

looks completely different. I have worked on a MW car that had repainted bumper but it was nothing like this. Just saying.

lenzm3edan · 01-20-2013, 07:47 PM

The owner of the shop should be ashamed to even give your car back like that, the color is way off, I wouldn't even take the car back or drive it like that. Keep us updated on the outcome.

And1M3 · 01-20-2013, 07:55 PM

Sorry to hear this OP and that is one bad paint job. Keep us posted on how your insurance handle this. I give you props for not losing your cool and punching the guy in the face. Good luck and I hope you get everything clear out.

SpeedyM3 · 01-20-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lenzm3edan

The owner of the shop should be ashamed to even give your car back like that, the color is way off, I wouldn't even take the car back or drive it like that. Keep us updated on the outcome.

They didn't even care and told me to talk to my insurance. I'll keep you guys updated

Blindside_137 · 01-20-2013, 08:16 PM

my god that is horrendous.

Sorry for the nightmare, hopefully it gets sorted. What a joke of a body shop to think that is acceptable.

SpeedyM3 · 01-21-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

my god that is horrendous.

Sorry for the nightmare, hopefully it gets sorted. What a joke of a body shop to think that is acceptable.

I know

nbennettksu · 01-21-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Powerbeast

That's body shop should be open. How do you let a customers car out like that?

Mr. ///M3 RD · 01-21-2013, 11:38 AM

That is just afoul I cannot understand how your BMW dealer can recommend a shop like this.
It is definitely a mismatch in colour codes, if they do work like this then your BMW dealer should not recommend them in the first place.

Here in Canada we have certified body shops by BMW it simply means that some of the technicians are trained and certified by BMW to work on BMW's. Also the insurance company here make sure that work is done at a certified shop and the work is then guaranteed for as long as you drive the car. I don't know what the situation is in the USA. Small town dealerships may not have that option, I don't know. If I would live in a small US town and there was a BMW dealership I would inquire if they also do there body work at that body shop (if not I would take my car to the nearest larger city). Every BMW needs to do work one time or another on new cars, they do get bumped and scratched before delivery ... they just don't tell us about that.

Anyway, good luck in getting it fixed properly.

Denk · 01-21-2013, 11:48 AM

Are those guys snow blind?

They've got their whites mixed up. Shame on them for giving you grief. I feel for you.

ferrari6891 · 01-21-2013, 12:11 PM

It looks like an AW / MW difference.

SpeedyM3 · 01-21-2013, 08:12 PM

Update.

I talked to my insurance today and they took a look at the car again and took pictures. They said they would talk to the bodyshop and that I should go tell BMW what happened too. So I left and told BMW and showed them and they also called the bodyshop and told them what happened and how bad it was. The GM at the bodyshop called me and told me that they can't "blend" it because it will be too much but they can try to repaint it. I told him id call him when I know what I want to do. Should I tell him that I want a different bodyshop?

1MOREMOD · 01-21-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedyM3

Update.

I talked to my insurance today and they took a look at the car again and took pictures. They said they would talk to the bodyshop and that I should go tell BMW what happened too. So I left and told BMW and showed them and they also called the bodyshop and told them what happened and how bad it was. The GM at the bodyshop called me and told me that they can't "blend" it because it will be too much but they can try to repaint it. I told him id call him when I know what I want to do. Should I tell him that I want a different bodyshop?

for sure. i would not go back to them.

kitw · 01-22-2013, 12:30 PM

I would definitely go to another body shop.

Metallic colors, especially whites, are extremely hard to match. Combine that with the required flex additive for a bumper and it's definitely not easy.

DO NOT go back to the same shop. If worse comes to worse right now, you can get the bumper resprayed somewhere else... and if that gets goofed up, they can get a new bumper for you. If the shop blends it and it still looks bad (which given their attention to detail is rather likely) then you have bad paint all over your hood and fenders. Combine that with the obviously cold temperatures and high relative humidity -> good paint work is hard.

Find out if your insurance has a guarantee for shops they recommend. State Farm, AAA, Geico, etc, all have guarantees that if the paint isn't good, they'll fix it. Call the high end dealerships in town and find out who they use, and hope there is a consensus.

THE TECH · 01-22-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-tect mobile

Not only is the collor not close but the applied the clear bra on fresh paint. That is a no no. The paint must cure fully before aplying the film... the rule of thumb is 30 days. I would not have installed the film because I know if it has to be removed chances are it will lift the paint with it. The body shop should know that as well as the clear bra installer.

^This!

And1M3 · 01-22-2013, 12:49 PM

Request for your money back and go to another shop. If they mess it up once, they might mess it up again. One time is enough to not trust them on their work.
What to say that they won't get angry and do some more damage to your car. Good luck OP.

chrisko · 01-22-2013, 01:32 PM

Wow, this is just awful.... I agree with everyone else, don't take it back there--write them a bad review on the interwebs, get your money back, and go to a more reputable shop.

SpeedyM3 · 01-22-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisko

Wow, this is just awful.... I agree with everyone else, don't take it back there--write them a bad review on the interwebs, get your money back, and go to a more reputable shop.

Yeah hopefully insurance will cover it

SpeedyM3 · 01-23-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by And1M3

Request for your money back and go to another shop. If they mess it up once, they might mess it up again. One time is enough to not trust them on their work.
What to say that they won't get angry and do some more damage to your car. Good luck OP.

Thanks

Dbcgolf1 · 01-24-2013, 12:18 PM

SO, I had a similar situation happen to my Crystal white pearl Mazda SUV 2 years ago. This ISSUE here, is not the paint code or the prep work. The body shop "might" have done everything acording to spec. This issue here, is the actual MATCHING of the new paint to the color on your car. This is where the voodoo science and skills comes in. The bodyshop need to take the TIME and have the SKILLS to actually take the original paint code and color match it to the paint on your car. Most shops just take a easy way out and paint to the original color.

My 0.02

SpeedyM3 · 01-24-2013, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dbcgolf1

SO, I had a similar situation happen to my Crystal white pearl Mazda SUV 2 years ago. This ISSUE here, is not the paint code or the prep work. The body shop "might" have done everything acording to spec. This issue here, is the actual MATCHING of the new paint to the color on your car. This is where the voodoo science and skills comes in. The bodyshop need to take the TIME and have the SKILLS to actually take the original paint code and color match it to the paint on your car. Most shops just take a easy way out and paint to the original color.

My 0.02

Yeah that was probably the case. They just didn't give a crap and if they don't pay for my other body shop I might have to get a lawyer involved

E92M3CN · 01-28-2013, 06:05 PM

you should wait 2 weeks before you apply the clear bra after a fresh paint. mineral white is a really hard to match especially from complains that it turns yellow. i suggest you to leave your car in the sunlight for 2 weeks when the paint settled in with the car then apply the clear bra.

01-20-2013, 07:47 PM	#47
lenzm3edan First Pride Drives: E90, Mercedes ML 350, subi Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 989 iTrader: (6)	The owner of the shop should be ashamed to even give your car back like that, the color is way off, I wouldn't even take the car back or drive it like that. Keep us updated on the outcome. __________________ ESS VT-1 550 silverstone E90 /// M3 - 6spd - AD08 - Spacers - H&R - AA exhaust - Primary cat delete - Custom test pipes - ESS tune - Lighted ZHP.

01-20-2013, 07:55 PM	#48
And1M3 Captain Drives: 2013 M3 MR FR/Bk Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 878 iTrader: (6)	Sorry to hear this OP and that is one bad paint job. Keep us posted on how your insurance handle this. I give you props for not losing your cool and punching the guy in the face. Good luck and I hope you get everything clear out. __________________ Click Here 13 MR E92 Build -Akrapovic slip on, Varis, BBS E88, Mode Carbon Lip + Side Skirt, LUX H8, KW Clubsport, ESS Tune + ACM Test Pipes, OEM CF spoiler, OEM CF mirror cover

01-20-2013, 08:16 PM	#50
Blindside_137 Brigadier General Drives: '09 E93 Space Gray 328 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3,163 iTrader: (1)	my god that is horrendous. Sorry for the nightmare, hopefully it gets sorted. What a joke of a body shop to think that is acceptable. __________________ M3 Edition Grilles\|Painted Reflectors\|Matte Black Vinyl Window Trim\|M3 Lip Spoiler\|35% Tint\|19" Satin Black Avant Garde M359\|Lux H8 V3\|OEM Aero Lip\|Cyba

01-21-2013, 11:38 AM	#53
Mr. ///M3 RD Major General Drives: M3 Summer & C350 4MATIC Winter Join Date: May 2010 Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada Posts: 7,604 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 Coupe e92 [3.00] 2011 Benz 350 4MATIC [1.00] 1969 Restored Merce ... [0.00] 1987 BMW 535is [0.50] Cars from the Past [1.50] The ///M3 Engine S65 [3.50]	That is just afoul I cannot understand how your BMW dealer can recommend a shop like this. It is definitely a mismatch in colour codes, if they do work like this then your BMW dealer should not recommend them in the first place. Here in Canada we have certified body shops by BMW it simply means that some of the technicians are trained and certified by BMW to work on BMW's. Also the insurance company here make sure that work is done at a certified shop and the work is then guaranteed for as long as you drive the car. I don't know what the situation is in the USA. Small town dealerships may not have that option, I don't know. If I would live in a small US town and there was a BMW dealership I would inquire if they also do there body work at that body shop (if not I would take my car to the nearest larger city). Every BMW needs to do work one time or another on new cars, they do get bumped and scratched before delivery ... they just don't tell us about that. Anyway, good luck in getting it fixed properly. __________________ Cheers, Rolf-Dieter Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well ---> Click here for some good stuff I found

01-21-2013, 12:11 PM	#55
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01-20-2013, 06:51 PM	#46
Raja Ventureshield Brigadier General Drives: BMW M3 coupe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,590 iTrader: (6)	looks completely different. I have worked on a MW car that had repainted bumper but it was nothing like this. Just saying.

01-21-2013, 11:48 AM	#54
Denk Major Drives: 2013 SSII e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,167 iTrader: (0)	Are those guys snow blind? They've got their whites mixed up. Shame on them for giving you grief. I feel for you.

01-21-2013, 08:12 PM	#56
SpeedyM3 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 249 iTrader: (0)	Update. I talked to my insurance today and they took a look at the car again and took pictures. They said they would talk to the bodyshop and that I should go tell BMW what happened too. So I left and told BMW and showed them and they also called the bodyshop and told them what happened and how bad it was. The GM at the bodyshop called me and told me that they can't "blend" it because it will be too much but they can try to repaint it. I told him id call him when I know what I want to do. Should I tell him that I want a different bodyshop?

01-22-2013, 12:30 PM	#58
kitw Colonel Drives: 2013 AW E92 M3 ZCP M-DCT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 2,157 iTrader: (13)	I would definitely go to another body shop. Metallic colors, especially whites, are extremely hard to match. Combine that with the required flex additive for a bumper and it's definitely not easy. DO NOT go back to the same shop. If worse comes to worse right now, you can get the bumper resprayed somewhere else... and if that gets goofed up, they can get a new bumper for you. If the shop blends it and it still looks bad (which given their attention to detail is rather likely) then you have bad paint all over your hood and fenders. Combine that with the obviously cold temperatures and high relative humidity -> good paint work is hard. Find out if your insurance has a guarantee for shops they recommend. State Farm, AAA, Geico, etc, all have guarantees that if the paint isn't good, they'll fix it. Call the high end dealerships in town and find out who they use, and hope there is a consensus.

01-22-2013, 12:49 PM	#60
And1M3 Captain Drives: 2013 M3 MR FR/Bk Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 878 iTrader: (6)	Request for your money back and go to another shop. If they mess it up once, they might mess it up again. One time is enough to not trust them on their work. What to say that they won't get angry and do some more damage to your car. Good luck OP. __________________ Click Here 13 MR E92 Build -Akrapovic slip on, Varis, BBS E88, Mode Carbon Lip + Side Skirt, LUX H8, KW Clubsport, ESS Tune + ACM Test Pipes, OEM CF spoiler, OEM CF mirror cover

01-22-2013, 01:32 PM	#61
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01-24-2013, 12:18 PM	#64
Dbcgolf1 Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 M3 sedan zcp dct Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 43 iTrader: (0)	SO, I had a similar situation happen to my Crystal white pearl Mazda SUV 2 years ago. This ISSUE here, is not the paint code or the prep work. The body shop "might" have done everything acording to spec. This issue here, is the actual MATCHING of the new paint to the color on your car. This is where the voodoo science and skills comes in. The bodyshop need to take the TIME and have the SKILLS to actually take the original paint code and color match it to the paint on your car. Most shops just take a easy way out and paint to the original color. My 0.02 __________________ 2011 M3 Sedan DCT ZCP 2003 540i M-Sports Pkg, Dinan (retired)

01-28-2013, 06:05 PM	#66
E92M3CN Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: california, Arcadia Posts: 180 iTrader: (0)	you should wait 2 weeks before you apply the clear bra after a fresh paint. mineral white is a really hard to match especially from complains that it turns yellow. i suggest you to leave your car in the sunlight for 2 weeks when the paint settled in with the car then apply the clear bra.

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