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      01-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #1
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Evolve Tune Experience

I have been researching long and hard to find the perfect setup for my car. To start I had VS Motorsports update my car to the BMW 231E software after reading many reviews about how the car had dramatically changed. I went ahead and did so. I had several other bolts on modifications to the car such as intake and exhaust. It increased the overall sound, but really did not feel a difference in power that I was expecting.

I was always have been a skeptic about tunes and what they actually did and achieve) I would see threads about how great each tune would make the car feel, but never any dyno graphs to show exactly what kind of power or different the tune made. After researching and talking to several members, I finally decided to make my plunge and this is where Evolve comes to play.

I had spoken with Evolve several times before making the plunge to the Evolve Stage II. I have been following their E-Tronic development thread for some time and when Evolve offered me this unit I could not resist. You can read my full write up here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...evolve+etronic


I went over to Dean's Performance to have my car dyno'd. The car was equipped with the stock elbow with a K&N Filter, and the full Evolve Exhaust (x-pipe with 200cpsi cats) I wanted the IAT to be as low as possible and ECT to be at around normal running temperature. When the results were consistent (with no heat soak) We started to run the car to the point where the car would not make anymore power. So I knew for a fact this was the best power my car could make under these conditions.


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We keep going and the car made 354.63whp and 269.78tq. After some adjustments were made by Evolve l I uploaded the tune and let the car idle. During idle, you can hear the change in engine sound. It was a much deeper sound then it was before.

1st Pull – There was hardly any gains on this pull. I was told by Evolve that the car would need to have about 3-4 pulls for the dyno to adapt. Evolve also told me that during the downtime of uploading the tune the engine would heatsoak, but once the car had a few more pulls the IAT will come down and the car once started would replace the hot air with the cool air from outside of the car.

2nd Pull – This is where things started to get exciting, the power started to climb up ever so slightly.

3rd Pull – It made more power especially after 4000RPM to redline

4th Pull – Pretty much I jizzed myself the car had made more power on a few modifications.

5th and final Pull – This is when the numbers were the same as the 4th Pull and we decided to stop.

I was very happy with the gains that I was able to get with the Evolve tune. While the peak hp was what Evolve stated, I was more impressed with how power started to build from 4000rpm to redline.

I was well aware that there would not be much gain before 4000rpm. If I did see gains below that it would most likely not be from the tune but from the DME resetting the adaptations, which told me that the pull would not be accurate.

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Driving After Tune:
The weather is pretty cold in Chicago (+19 degrees) but driving the car has changed drastically. There is no hesitation in how the power comes on and the power feels really smooth all through out the gears.

Don’t get me wrong the stock car is nice, but the response when stepping on the gas pedal is very sedated and very rough.

After installing the tune, the E-Tronic exhaust had a different note to it (very hard to explain) And I know I might sound crazy, but that made me feel like something had changed for the better.
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      01-18-2013, 05:19 PM   #2
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Nice! Glad you're enjoying it.

What octane are you running?
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can you type what the before/after results are? i can't make out that chart at all.
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Nice! and I see you at the end of the video!
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Nice! Glad you're enjoying it.

What octane are you running?

Always nice dynoing a car in very cold weather because the gains are much more substantial with a tune. I don't think my car has EVER seen 19 degree weather!
93 octane and yes it ran nicely

I made 354.63whp and 269.78tq with 240E/K&N Filter/Xpipe/Exhaust
After 376.30whp and 272.40tq
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Sorry for this dumb question ... what is heat soak?
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Sorry for this dumb question ... what is heat soak?
Heat soak=overheating.
Nice gains looking like close to 20 whp off just the tune!
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Very nice man,Congrats
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Great review Mark! The results look to be very solid and realistic! I love how the power exponentially climbs after 4000RPM!

I am so happy with my Evolve Stage 1 Tune, I can't imagine how much of a blast it is with primary cat delete and the Stage 2 Tune.

Seriously, the car sounds amazing in person and I don't think any video can ever capture how great these cars sound.

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Always nice dynoing a car in very cold weather because the gains are much more substantial with a tune. I don't think my car has EVER seen 19 degree weather!
Haha, FOR SURE our cars are loving this cold midwest weather when on the streets!!

In the dyno shop though, the conditions were near 70F. mkpoto's IATs were slightly warmer than that as well. If only it was 19F INSIDE the dyno shop

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I had a different experience. Our cars made almost exactly the same power. Mine came from the OEM update though.

My car LOVES the cold weather. To the point where I find the summer performance disappointing. In the winter, I could swear it has 40 WHP more! It's bitter sweet because of the decreased traction. :-/
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great review. Evolve did a great job
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I had a different experience. Our cars made almost exactly the same power. Mine came from the OEM update though.

My car LOVES the cold weather. To the point where I find the summer performance disappointing. In the winter, I could swear it has 40 WHP more! It's bitter sweet because of the decreased traction. :-/
I know exactly what you mean! It's even worse when we have to use winter tires..."more" power, less traction due to temps, less sticky tires....worst combo ever

For what it's worth, I think it is very challenging to make any sound conclusions when comparing figures from two different dynos, especially with the E92 M3. A lot of forum sponsors here have posted countless amounts of dyno data from different client cars and what's most interesting is seeing how much results vary from car to car, despite having similar modifications.
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I know exactly what you mean! It's even worse when we have to use winter tires..."more" power, less traction due to temps, less sticky tires....worst combo ever

For what it's worth, I think it is very challenging to make any sound conclusions when comparing figures from two different dynos, especially with the E92 M3. A lot of forum sponsors here have posted countless amounts of dyno data from different client cars and what's most interesting is seeing how much results vary from car to car, despite having similar modifications.
"Winter tires"? What are those? I was running RS3s until it started to rain lol!

I was just comparing the gains really. We had the same gains, they just came from opposite places. He's happy, I'm happy, nothing is "amiss". Just sharing my experience.
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"Winter tires"? What are those? I was running RS3s until it started to rain lol!

I was just comparing the gains really. We had the same gains, they just came from opposite places. He's happy, I'm happy, nothing is "amiss". Just sharing my experience.
Cool cool!

HAHA...I almost forgot, I see endless photos, videos, and threads of all these track events over there...and here I am scraping off ice from my windshield. With all the money I spend on extra sets of wheels and winter tires for our cars, I could be buying more fun mods....
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Cool cool!

HAHA...I almost forgot, I see endless photos, videos, and threads of all these track events over there...and here I am scraping off ice from my windshield. With all the money I spend on extra sets of wheels and winter tires for our cars, I could be buying more fun mods....
Maybe you should move!

It was 30 degrees with snow flurries at the last event. You should have seen the SoCal natives freezing to death (I'm an Idaho native)!
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Great review Mark! The results look to be very solid and realistic! I love how the power exponentially climbs after 4000RPM!

I am so happy with my Evolve Stage 1 Tune, I can't imagine how much of a blast it is with primary cat delete and the Stage 2 Tune.

Seriously, the car sounds amazing in person and I don't think any video can ever capture how great these cars sound.


Haha, FOR SURE our cars are loving this cold midwest weather when on the streets!!

In the dyno shop though, the conditions were near 70F. mkpoto's IATs were slightly warmer than that as well. If only it was 19F INSIDE the dyno shop


Thanks alex, love how the car runs and its a new beast!
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great review. Evolve did a great job
yes and I cannot agree anymore to this statement. Sal stayed up till 3AM UK time to tune my car and my friends supercharged car. I was waiting for him to call it a night, but he would not quit till it was done. That is dedication from a outstanding tuner!
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Great post OP! Nice to see the those dynos!
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Great post OP! Nice to see the those dynos!
thank you, I wish it was warmer in chicago so I can drive my car, sucks having to get to drive it only for one day to go back into storage lol
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I had a different experience. Our cars made almost exactly the same power. Mine came from the OEM update though.

My car LOVES the cold weather. To the point where I find the summer performance disappointing. In the winter, I could swear it has 40 WHP more! It's bitter sweet because of the decreased traction. :-/
i dont know about 40 but it seems to me to be noticable in my lap times. either im getting better this winter or its making more power or both.
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