Software update?

Dgarcia41982 · 01-17-2013, 06:20 PM

Just came from the dealer for my oil change ($230 which isn't bad as I've seen some of you pay $300 or better). I have an 08 E90 M3 22,000 miles (completely stock). Dealer told me Im due for spark plugs $579, rear diff $263, and software update $270. He said its the time not the mileage. Diff fluid ok but plugs? Seems a little soon no? Finally the software update. A quick search showed how someone gained 20 hp from the update. You fellas think its worth the $270 or should i just go with a Dinan software update for like $700.

UnfoundLegend · 01-17-2013, 06:40 PM

I got the software done for free, and it's worth it for me of course. Car feels smoother but I doubt you'll notice an increase in horsepower. As you slow down, the gears change much more smoothly than before the update. Also, I feel much quicker throttle response.

If the car has never been updated before, then definitely update it. Mine was updated in 2010 and the latest update which came out around Christmas I think did change the feel of the car.

ms372 · 01-17-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dgarcia41982

Just came from the dealer for my oil change ($230 which isn't bad as I've seen some of you pay $300 or better). I have an 08 E90 M3 22,000 miles (completely stock). Dealer told me Im due for spark plugs $579, rear diff $263, and software update $270. He said its the time not the mileage. Diff fluid ok but plugs? Seems a little soon no? Finally the software update. A quick search showed how someone gained 20 hp from the update. You fellas think its worth the $270 or should i just go with a Dinan software update for like $700.

if you get any aftermarket tune, they will update ur car to 231E or the 240E with their tune for free and use it as a baseline for their tune. as for the diff and the plugs i also had to change mine around the same mileage not long ago.

thekurgan · 01-17-2013, 07:09 PM

There shouldn't be a "need" to update any software, it's not normal maintenance unless you have an issue related to a fix provided by the release. Also at 22k, you seem premature to do plugs and rear diff fluids. Plugs and diff oil don't go "bad" like milk in a warm fridge, or like brake fluid that absorbs water reducing its boiling temp.

aus · 01-17-2013, 07:21 PM

$270 is how many hours of labor?
Seems kind of steep.

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Trip3's · 01-17-2013, 07:51 PM

Search for a speed shop in your area that has an Autologic machine. I'm getting the 240e update for $100 and the guy said it takes about an hour.

AshyLarryMP · 01-17-2013, 08:47 PM

BMW San Diego charged me $145 a month ago.

mdosu · 01-17-2013, 09:34 PM

Spark plug change varies by mileage, I got mine changed under my maintenance plan at 22k

mdefalco25 · 01-17-2013, 09:34 PM

I was quoted $95 from an independent shop to update the software. Dealer wanted $215. I figure, I have an 08 as well and it has never been done so figure it is a good idea.

signes · 01-18-2013, 12:09 AM

If you elect to do plugs (mine were done at 28k, 37k is the max called for in the manual), buy the plugs yourself and have them do the labor. I just did that and the labor was $125 (1.5 hrs at $85/hour) and I paid ~$80 for the plugs on Amazon. ~$200 all in. $579 is outrageous even if you did buy the plugs from the dealer.

thekurgan · 01-18-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

Spark plug change varies by mileage, I got mine changed under my maintenance plan at 22k

Plugs aren't a CBS item, how does his dealer tell him they need to be changed? If the dealer wants to make a recommendation, that's fine, I personally feel they should be done at 15k.

Sean05 · 01-18-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgarcia41982

Just came from the dealer for my oil change ($230 which isn't bad as I've seen some of you pay $300 or better). I have an 08 E90 M3 22,000 miles (completely stock). Dealer told me Im due for spark plugs $579, rear diff $263, and software update $270. He said its the time not the mileage. Diff fluid ok but plugs? Seems a little soon no? Finally the software update. A quick search showed how someone gained 20 hp from the update. You fellas think its worth the $270 or should i just go with a Dinan software update for like $700.

WOW... prices are pretty decent.. Im a DIY guy so prices you posted are insane.. lol

oil change = $130
sparkplugs = $80 bucks.. + coil puller by TxStig = $30
Rear Diff = $90

well software update = $0 never had one and never had problem so dont fix when its working right.. lol

If your thinking about a tune.. we have several sponsor on the forum that can help you out without any issue coding remotely is available as well.

THE TECH · 01-18-2013, 09:31 AM

Depending on what software you're on, you could very well benefit from a software update. In regards to a tune, yes we do give our customers the newest software when they purchase a tune from us. It just depends on if you're looking for performance or to keep the vehicle stock.

Moxie · 01-18-2013, 12:31 PM

Crazy ass prices - I'd look elsewhere.

TVMA Doc · 01-18-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip3's

Search for a speed shop in your area that has an Autologic machine. I'm getting the 240e update for $100 and the guy said it takes about an hour.

I'd take this recommendation. If your car is out of warranty, a good indy shop is a better option for all of the work.

In the East Bay, we have Performance Technic, but I'm sure that most places have a shop like this-quality at least on par with the dealer, prices less than half.

808@702 · 01-18-2013, 02:19 PM

Is the software update just for DCT or 6MT as well?

Nathane91 · 01-18-2013, 04:34 PM

579 for plugs is crazy price

THE TECH · 01-18-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 808@702

Is the software update just for DCT or 6MT as well?

Software updates are independent of transmission type.

Elaz · 01-18-2013, 07:57 PM

that's a lot of lot for an oil change what about synthetic oil at jifilube.

Moxie · 01-19-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elaz

that's a lot of lot for an oil change what about synthetic oil at jifilube.

I'd pay the $230 @ the dealer before I'd let Jiffy Lube touch my car. It's simple to DIY.

daviomaron · 01-19-2013, 08:26 PM

Search for a speed shop in your area that has an Autologic machine.

Talk2meg00se · 01-19-2013, 08:34 PM

I recenlty upgraded from whatever it was that my car had (presumably 80E or something similar as it's an '08 and had never been updated) to 240E - it was a bit of a pain, as I then had to reload an updated tune as well . . .

Certainly not a game changer - if there is any differences, it's that the engine feels smoother between the gears. Nothing empircal to add here; the observation may be 100% psychosomatic.

01-17-2013, 06:20 PM	#1
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thekurgan Bad Lieutenant Drives: E90M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,934 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	There shouldn't be a "need" to update any software, it's not normal maintenance unless you have an issue related to a fix provided by the release. Also at 22k, you seem premature to do plugs and rear diff fluids. Plugs and diff oil don't go "bad" like milk in a warm fridge, or like brake fluid that absorbs water reducing its boiling temp. __________________ 08 E90M3 6MT Alpinweiss/Carbon \|spot on\|^^^this\|interwebs\|planted\|initial thoughts\|my review\| Last edited by thekurgan; 01-17-2013 at 07:24 PM. Reason: shitty speller

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aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,221 iTrader: (5)	$270 is how many hours of labor? Seems kind of steep. . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

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mdosu p...p...p...p...pkilla!!! Drives: 2008.99989 SSII E90 M3 "Civic" Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,228 iTrader: (4)	Spark plug change varies by mileage, I got mine changed under my maintenance plan at 22k __________________ Yes, that's a xmas tree in my trunk

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signes Brigadier General Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spinnin at 8k Posts: 3,251 iTrader: (3)	If you elect to do plugs (mine were done at 28k, 37k is the max called for in the manual), buy the plugs yourself and have them do the labor. I just did that and the labor was $125 (1.5 hrs at $85/hour) and I paid ~$80 for the plugs on Amazon. ~$200 all in. $579 is outrageous even if you did buy the plugs from the dealer. __________________ 08 E90 \| Jet Black / Black \| 6MT Mods: RAC RG63 w/ Pirelli Corsa 255F/285R \| Akrapovic Evo Exhaust \| OEM Blacklines Winter Setup: OEM 18s w/ Nokian Hakkapeliita R 245/40-18

01-17-2013, 06:40 PM	#2
UnfoundLegend 13th letter of the alphabet ;) Drives: '14 M4 Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: FL, USA Posts: 39 iTrader: (0)	I got the software done for free, and it's worth it for me of course. Car feels smoother but I doubt you'll notice an increase in horsepower. As you slow down, the gears change much more smoothly than before the update. Also, I feel much quicker throttle response. If the car has never been updated before, then definitely update it. Mine was updated in 2010 and the latest update which came out around Christmas I think did change the feel of the car.

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Trip3's Private First Class Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Long island Posts: 156 iTrader: (0)	Search for a speed shop in your area that has an Autologic machine. I'm getting the 240e update for $100 and the guy said it takes about an hour.

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AshyLarryMP First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 MW E92 ZCP DCT Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 304 iTrader: (0)	BMW San Diego charged me $145 a month ago.

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mdefalco25 Private First Class Drives: E92 AW 6MT Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Normal, IL Posts: 121 iTrader: (0)	I was quoted $95 from an independent shop to update the software. Dealer wanted $215. I figure, I have an 08 as well and it has never been done so figure it is a good idea.

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THE TECH BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 12,075 iTrader: (39)	Depending on what software you're on, you could very well benefit from a software update. In regards to a tune, yes we do give our customers the newest software when they purchase a tune from us. It just depends on if you're looking for performance or to keep the vehicle stock. __________________ Check us out on Facebook at BPMsportlabs

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Nathane91 Enlisted Member Drives: E91 msport Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Wales. Uk Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	579 for plugs is crazy price

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Elaz First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 e92 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: new york Posts: 391 iTrader: (1)	that's a lot of lot for an oil change what about synthetic oil at jifilube.

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Talk2meg00se First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 391 iTrader: (0)	I recenlty upgraded from whatever it was that my car had (presumably 80E or something similar as it's an '08 and had never been updated) to 240E - it was a bit of a pain, as I then had to reload an updated tune as well . . . Certainly not a game changer - if there is any differences, it's that the engine feels smoother between the gears. Nothing empircal to add here; the observation may be 100% psychosomatic. __________________ SSII \| Speed cloth \| 6MT \| Tint \| EDC \| MS Stage 2 Intake \| ESS Tune \| MS Pulley \| OEM GTS Wheels + Michelin Pilots \| MS Spacers \| Akrapovic slip-on [+CF tips]

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