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      01-16-2013, 01:13 PM   #23
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Haha. Well I found a local shop that will do it for $80 if I provide all the parts. Hawk ceramic pads that I ordered ended being on back-order. So I cancelled the order and purchased oem full rear brake package from a guy here in classifieds. I will just stick with stock for now. So moral of the story is to get the parts and DIY or find a local shop.
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Previous car? so have you actually used them in E9x M3?
To be fair, I have not.
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      01-16-2013, 05:24 PM   #25
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Hour labor for pads swap at max. I would also look at Project Mu NS/NS400 or their Euro Eco pad which is close to the NS. This is our favorite all around pad by far! Less dust than stock, and enough bite to take on light track duty or auto X. I've used these on most my personal cars for years. They cost a bit more than the HPS, but perform better and dust less.
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Hour labor for pads swap at max. I would also look at Project Mu NS/NS400 or their Euro Eco pad which is close to the NS. This is our favorite all around pad by far! Less dust than stock, and enough bite to take on light track duty or auto X. I've used these on most my personal cars for years. They cost a bit more than the HPS, but perform better and dust less.
I have used these, and they are excellent.
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The Hawk HPS are good street pads, but should not be used for aggressive driving or on the track! My preference is the StopTech Street Performance pads. These are good for both street and light track use. The only downside is increased pad wear (about 6-8 track days) with track use.

I change my own pads, but I think $80-100 might be reasonable.
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Previous car? so have you actually used them in E9x M3?
Why would they be any different on this car?
Do they change the compound for each application?

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      01-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #29
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Why would they be any different on this car?
Do they change the compound for each application?

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maybe he is refering to the pigish nature of the m3 and how it eats pads.
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Why would they be any different on this car?
Do they change the compound for each application?

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I know for sure that HPS pads in a Brembo GT caliper are much more responsive than the HPS pads in OEM calipers. By quite a lot.

I do not think that the pads have different compounds for different applications, but in my particular case different calipers made a difference with the (apparently) same pad.
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The cold bite or lack thereof on HPS pads has been a common complaint for years through various makes of cars. It's interesting though, that with the many complaints, there are some that really enjoy the pads.
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I have personally had the HPS on my car, and aside from them not being track pads, they were just fine for the street. What specifically does everyone not like about these pads?

OP, HPS would have been fine for DD.....OEM will dust alot more, as I'm sure you already know.
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      01-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #33
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How long would you guys say it takes to do replacement pads, stainless steel brake line install and brake fluid upgrade?

Approx how much in price?

Will be requesting quotes for this job and want to make sure its with in a realistic price range.
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Why would they be any different on this car?
Do they change the compound for each application?

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i dont know .. .maybe its different maybe its not.. since i am not familiar with brakes thought id ask the question.

all i know is that every car is different on how brake reacts.... i dont know.. maybe someone can chime in. not sure why everyone is hating it if they have not even used it. Not sure if you did but hey everyone drives differently. To some it might be good. i dont know...

Ill let you know on my feedback after i installed mine. Since i drive 15 miles a day i might not see any difference.. who knows.
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I know for sure that HPS pads in a Brembo GT caliper are much more responsive than the HPS pads in OEM calipers. By quite a lot.

I do not think that the pads have different compounds for different applications, but in my particular case different calipers made a difference with the (apparently) same pad.
oh thats interesting.. good to know..
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I have personally had the HPS on my car, and aside from them not being track pads, they were just fine for the street. What specifically does everyone not like about these pads?

OP, HPS would have been fine for DD.....OEM will dust alot more, as I'm sure you already know.
sounds like people that complained is when they are using the pads for track...

like you said for street use its fine.. so i guess ill be happy with mine after the install.
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Thanks everyone for chiming in! But as I mentioned earlier I just ended up getting complete oem rear brake system for now since HPS were back ordered and would take 2-3 weeks. I will try them in 4-6 months when I will have time to wait if they are not in stock. oem will do the job for now. I hate so much dust though!! Sick of cleaning my wheels 4 times a week. Oh well.
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Try stoptech street performance.
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      01-17-2013, 03:06 PM   #39
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Try stoptech street performance.
Agreed. Not sure why anyone would use the HPS whent he ST pads cost about the same, have good initial bite even when cold, dust similar to HPS (a tiny bit more maybe) and can be tracked by most.

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How about I do HPS in back and Stoptech in front? Haha. Jk. I will research further and try out the new pads in 4-6 months. My main goal is very low dust.
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One more vote for stoptech. They are offered at a great price on amazon right now front and rear. I have some used ones that I won't be needing that you could try out if you want.
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One more vote for stoptech. They are offered at a great price on amazon right now front and rear. I have some used ones that I won't be needing that you could try out if you want.
Slow clap. THANK YOU.
Just bought my brake pads. Way to post that sale. Seriously good sh8t
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One more vote for stoptech. They are offered at a great price on amazon right now front and rear. I have some used ones that I won't be needing that you could try out if you want.
holy crap... i dont know if anyone can beat that.. .
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holy crap... i dont know if anyone can beat that.. .
I agree and wasn't kidding... The minute I saw the price I bought a front/rear set. There were only five left and I bought one so now amazon updated and they are only the four. Jump on it.
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