Potential DE at COTA - BMWCCA - Page 5

jml · 01-05-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I think the 4th event was Ride Smart (bikes...bleh), not David Murray.

Drivers Edge requires a special tech which has some increased brake service requirements (thicker pads, fluid not older than 3 months), newer rotors). I guess we are not allowed to bring food and drinks in BUT COTA concessions will be open.

I can see why. At the CTS-V event they limited speeds to prevent bake failure.

4sevens.com · 01-05-2013, 09:05 PM

I'm signed up for three days at COTA Feb 1-3...

I'm bringing several sets of race pads for my bbk as well as several sets of tires/wheels.

Hired a pro driver to coach me as well

bigjae1976 · 01-05-2013, 09:59 PM

Only 6 more days for me...

Just flushed the brakes and changed the oil. I'll swap tires and pads Fri night.

jphughan · 01-06-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

I'm signed up for three days at COTA Feb 1-3...

I'm bringing several sets of race pads for my bbk as well as several sets of tires/wheels.

Hired a pro driver to coach me as well

What is the event on Feb 1-3? Judging by the amount of equipment you're bringing it sounds like a full race rather than an HPDE? If it's just an HPDE, there's no way you'll need several sets of any of that -- 2 sets of brakes and tires max.

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Only 6 more days for me...

I was so bummed out when Driver's Edge locked this down to solo-qualified and Advanced run group (is that just Red or Yellow + Red?) At my last TWS CCW event my instructor asked whether I'd like to work on moving up to Yellow or going solo and I picked Yellow. I got cleared for Yellow on TWS CCW but I'm not solo yet -- and CotA isn't allowing spectators so I can't even go there and catch rides!

Oh well, I guess it's at least happening at all after their initial blanket refusal.

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jphughan

What is the event on Feb 1-3? Judging by the amount of equipment you're bringing it sounds like a full race rather than an HPDE? If it's just an HPDE, there's no way you'll need several sets of any of that -- 2 sets of brakes and tires max.

I was so bummed out when Driver's Edge locked this down to solo-qualified and Advanced run group (is that just Red or Yellow + Red?) At my last TWS CCW event my instructor asked whether I'd like to work on moving up to Yellow or going solo and I picked Yellow. I got cleared for Yellow on TWS CCW but I'm not solo yet -- and CotA isn't allowing spectators so I can't even go there and catch rides!

Oh well, I guess it's at least happening at all after their initial blanket refusal.

1-3 Feb is with MVP.

PM me your full name and email address and I can add you onto the guest list for Driver's Edge...no problem. You can come and hang out. Did you call Rick? I'd x2 check that. Not sure, but I didn't think there was such a distinction between being yellow and being solo when I made the jump from blue to yellow. In yellow, don't you run at least half of the sessions solo?

I think brakes will take a beating from T12 coming off the back straight all the way to T19. I don't think there's another stretch of track in Texas that will beat them up that bad. TWS, I'm topping out at about 135-140mph but I'm only coming down to about 100mph either direction while in the braking zones. And then you're carrying a lot of speed through the next couple of corners so your brakes can cool and recover. COTA, I'm guessing I'll top out at similar speeds but I guess I have to bring the car down to about 40mph-50mph. So you're on it for harder and longer (that's what she said). Then you've got a bunch of slower, tighter turns. I would think that you'll keep building heat in the brakes until you get through T20...or until your dust boot on your calipers catch fire.

I started this weekend on 2 day old PF01s which were 11mm thick and I vaporized them in 7.5 sessions. And this was at MSR Cresson 3.1.

4sevens.com · 01-06-2013, 01:41 PM

^looks like it's time for a rebuild to get those boots replaced

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

^looks like it's time for a rebuild to get those boots replaced

I got something better...

Yeah, need to get a boot. They list for $25 on realOEM in case anyone was curious.

4sevens.com · 01-06-2013, 05:10 PM

my boots on my stoptech st-60 are shot... need to rebuild too... Maybe squeeze in one more track day... What can go wrong?

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

my boots on my stoptech st-60 are shot... need to rebuild too... Maybe squeeze in one more track day... What can go wrong?

Those boots aren't too hard to replace. I think you just pry them out and pop them back in. At least that's what I had to do to clear some debris out of one of my calipers...long story...used kit. But I don't think you have to completely disconnect the caliper or open up the lines.

4sevens.com · 01-06-2013, 06:36 PM

^ thanks! I'll order a rebuild kit...

One of the calipers is weeping fluid from one of the cylinders which is not good - I think it may be because the cylinders are overextended - pads are gone and worn down to the backing and the rotors are worn too...

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

^ thanks! I'll order a rebuild kit...

One of the calipers is weeping fluid from one of the cylinders which is not good - I think it may be because the cylinders are overextended - pads are gone and worn down to the backing and the rotors are worn too...

I had an issue where stuff blocked the passage for the fluid. I took the caliper off and opened a bleed valve on one side and then used compressed air through the bleeder valve to pop the piston and seal out. Careful because it doesn't take much pressure to shoot the piston out. Repeated on the other side. Cleaned it all up and I just put the piston back in and pressed the seal it with my fingers. It was pretty easy.

4sevens.com · 01-06-2013, 07:19 PM

I need to install speed bleeders for mine while I'm at it....

03BeastCharmer · 01-06-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I got something better...

Is that an M5 Brembo front caliper?

Hope you guys have run at COTA, I'll have to wait until the June event.

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

Is that an M5 Brembo front caliper?

Hope you guys have run at COTA, I'll have to wait until the June event.

No, Stoptech ST60 powdercoated. I bought a used 4 wheel kit with pretty rough looking calipers. So it was perfect for me!

TXmtrhed · 01-06-2013, 11:11 PM

If you're not using them I think Ti backing plates will help your boots last longer.

bigjae1976 · 01-06-2013, 11:16 PM

The lesson learned is to check your OEM E9X brakes after every session because your car vaporizes brake pads with hard use.

03BeastCharmer · 01-14-2013, 07:48 PM

Tier 1 registration opened up, and looks like 80 people have signed up already

gobuffs · 01-14-2013, 09:26 PM

122 and counting....in 2.5 hours.

03BeastCharmer · 01-14-2013, 10:08 PM

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122 and counting....in 2.5 hours.

So how many spots are there in total? Will we even see Tier 2 or 3?

bigjae1976 · 01-14-2013, 10:10 PM

I found my stamps unfortunately my son has already stuck them to his toys. So my check is coming priority mail.

bdaddylo · 01-14-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

So how many spots are there in total? Will we even see Tier 2 or 3?

Plenty of space in novice and advanced. I'm pretty sure some will be dropped down a class due to lack of DE experience.

gobuffs · 01-14-2013, 10:43 PM

The 122 number includes instructors. All students and instructors there are 225 spots.

01-05-2013, 09:59 PM	#91
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,047 iTrader: (8)	Only 6 more days for me... Just flushed the brakes and changed the oil. I'll swap tires and pads Fri night. __________________

01-06-2013, 11:16 PM	#104
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,047 iTrader: (8)	The lesson learned is to check your OEM E9X brakes after every session because your car vaporizes brake pads with hard use. __________________

01-14-2013, 07:48 PM	#105
03BeastCharmer Major Drives: 03 M5, '13, 88 & 97 M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 1,313 iTrader: (2)	Tier 1 registration opened up, and looks like 80 people have signed up already __________________ Current: '13 E92 M3 Euro Delivery 9/4 Wife's: E39 M5, E36 M3, E30 M3 Gone: E86 M Coupe

01-14-2013, 10:10 PM	#108
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,047 iTrader: (8)	I found my stamps unfortunately my son has already stuck them to his toys. So my check is coming priority mail. __________________

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01-05-2013, 09:05 PM	#90
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (3)	I'm signed up for three days at COTA Feb 1-3... I'm bringing several sets of race pads for my bbk as well as several sets of tires/wheels. Hired a pro driver to coach me as well

01-06-2013, 01:41 PM	#94
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (3)	^looks like it's time for a rebuild to get those boots replaced

01-06-2013, 05:10 PM	#96
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (3)	my boots on my stoptech st-60 are shot... need to rebuild too... Maybe squeeze in one more track day... What can go wrong?

01-06-2013, 06:36 PM	#98
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (3)	^ thanks! I'll order a rebuild kit... One of the calipers is weeping fluid from one of the cylinders which is not good - I think it may be because the cylinders are overextended - pads are gone and worn down to the backing and the rotors are worn too...

01-06-2013, 07:19 PM	#100
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,474 iTrader: (3)	I need to install speed bleeders for mine while I'm at it....

01-06-2013, 11:11 PM	#103
TXmtrhed Private First Class Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 185 iTrader: (0)	If you're not using them I think Ti backing plates will help your boots last longer.

01-14-2013, 09:26 PM	#106
gobuffs First Lieutenant Drives: 88 M3.2 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 362 iTrader: (0)	122 and counting....in 2.5 hours.

01-14-2013, 10:43 PM	#110
gobuffs First Lieutenant Drives: 88 M3.2 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 362 iTrader: (0)	The 122 number includes instructors. All students and instructors there are 225 spots.