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      01-10-2013, 06:02 PM   #1
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New 2012 E93 M3 possible lemon? Please Help!!

I leased a brand new 2012 convertible BMW M3 back in april 2012, where the roof comes together on top of the windows I noticed the roof was leaking water inside my car and dripping all over my seats on all 4 corners. I have taken it in for that specific reason twice already both times they were unable to identify the problem and told me to come back when its rain season (this was over summer and I noticed it at the car wash). I took the vehicle in again recently (12-11-2012), and they found the problem. However they have not been able to get my car back. First they said it would take a couple of days. Then after a week they said the roof has been taken apart and they are waiting for the "special glue" to come in, since it was holiday time they said it would take a little more time. I did not bother them until after Christmas. The week before New Years I called for update and still part was pending but they said they can have it back same week. I said ok, no problem get the car back to me when you can. I waited till after New Years to call them on the following Wednesday, I got no response and then a called back Friday to find out the "special glue" still has not come in. Service said they would call me first thing Monday. Today is Thursday and no call has been received. The car is a lease and I paid his payment for December and now January payment is here, but I have not driven my own car. The car has had issues since date of purchase, I believes it came defective from Germany because the car was brand new with less than ~14miles on it when I purchased it. I work out of town most of the week so I sent my dad in to collect the service paper work and find out whats going on. **On a side note my 2010 M5 also has engine/piston issues and is at service as well, we are looking at a new engine being placed in there as well.** At the dealer yesterday, the service rep gave us all the print outs outlining the numerous times I have taken it in for various different issues including the leaking roof as well as left over glue residue in certain parts of the car. They gave me a phone number to call and was told I could have it all settled very fast with them. I looked up the # its fro BMW road side assistance, does that sound right? I have read some posts of other people having similar issues with various 3 series hard top convertibles and saw mixed results when they contacted BMW NA. Tomorrow marks my car being in service for 30 days this 1 single time, not including the previous times they had it. At this point I just want all my money back including the down payment, my car is less than 1 year old and less than 10k miles. Any thoughts or suggestions on what I could do?
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      01-10-2013, 06:13 PM   #2
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      01-10-2013, 06:14 PM   #3
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hire a lemon lawyer and he'll tell you what you need to do. sounds like a lemon to me.
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      01-10-2013, 06:17 PM   #4
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      01-10-2013, 06:18 PM   #5
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      01-10-2013, 06:19 PM   #6
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Search the forum, I think I have seen a lot of threads discussing this issue.

Other solution would be getting the faster nicer e92 M3 JK, just had to say it lol
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      01-10-2013, 06:26 PM   #7
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Future reference this would be an easier thread if put into summarization/ paragraph form. Based on the description you gave us I would have to say it might be a lemon. I would hire a lemon lawyer as others have said because they would know best. Good luck!
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      01-10-2013, 07:08 PM   #8
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I just read the same line 4 times..
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      01-10-2013, 07:14 PM   #9
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      01-10-2013, 07:16 PM   #10
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Other solution would be getting the faster nicer e92 M3 JK, just had to say it lol
THIS ..plus, the use of paragraphs and the enter key in future posts..

On a serious note..OP has a long way to go before he can prove a lemon claim, by his own admission it has been in for service twice for the same issue. Doesn't sound like that meets the criteria to have it lemoned.

Its bad luck that this happened and I think the only hope is to hang in there until they resolve it
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      01-10-2013, 07:26 PM   #12
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In California, the lemon law criteria is pretty straight forward and you don't really need a lawyer. BMWNA understands the California lemon law. You should read (Google) the law yourself since California has put it in an easy read format.
You need to get the service manager on your side. You need to call BMWNA and state your grievances and have them get the ball rolling by contacting the service manager.
You wont get all your money back even if your situation meets the lemon criteria. That's because you used the car. There is going to be a depreciation factor based on mileage which will affect how much you get back. I'm pretty sure this is the case even under California law.
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      01-10-2013, 09:05 PM   #14
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More than 30 days in the shop. Qualifies as a lemon in Ca.

Also 3 times for the same issue.
Talk to BMWNA.
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      01-10-2013, 09:44 PM   #15
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sounds like you are dealing with some head-aches. Sorry OP!

Next time try spacing your thoughts out. It was very difficult to read the block of text and I got bored half way through and didn't finish.
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I saw a karma pulling off the road with hazards on when I was a on a road trip to SF. Wondering if its the fire issue.
for OP, sorry about your situation and hope you can get it lemoned and get a new one in no time. I have a convertible. Hopefully it wont be leaking
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tu parles le francais???
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tu parles le francais???
Google translator.
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Google translator.
Aww I was utterly impressed at first!! I was like from California and french speaking = wow! And all the accents were correctly placed too ! haha
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      01-10-2013, 10:52 PM   #22
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Lemon that sucker. Not sure if you are willing to trust BMW again, but they could also put you in a new car, pick up some payments etc to make up for this mess.

Everything is negotiable, I've learned.
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