The reason why M3 > Prius

dreamspeed · 01-08-2013, 01:32 PM

Driving home on the 10 East the other day I was cruising in moderate traffic (40-50mph) when for no apparent reason traffic comes to a complete stop.

The Prius driver in front of me slams on the brakes, the tires start screeching and the car quite literally slides into the truck in front of it.

All this happens in a matter of seconds but it played out in slow motion in front of me. I hit the brakes as soon as i see the prius brake lights but something wasn't computing in my head.

This prius seems like it's trying desperately to stop so i'm thinking i better slam on my brakes but yet i know at the speed i'm going and the distance i have between me and the prius i don't have to step on the brakes that hard

So I apply moderate force on the brakes and stop well in back of the Prius...but in these situations i'm usually not afraid of hitting the guy in front of me...i'm afraid the guy in back of me won't stop in time and rear end me....i look in my rear view mirror and what car do i see? A DB9! Obviously the guy stops in time.

Lesson of the day: Prevent accidents drive sports/sporty cars.

Ironically I was in almost the exact same situation a few years ago in my 350z. Civic in front of me hits the guy in front of him, i stop in time, i look up at the rear view mirror and see a Scion tc and think CRAP....and bam he rear ends me.

e1000 · 01-08-2013, 01:52 PM

M3 60 to 0 stopping distance = 100ft
Prius 60 to 0 stopping distance = 131ft

wow.

Z K · 01-08-2013, 01:56 PM

Stick some high performance tires and brakes on the Prius and see what happens.

thekurgan · 01-08-2013, 02:14 PM

Just to see the DB9 would be sweet! All priuses must die!

jphughan · 01-08-2013, 02:21 PM

Yeah, and apparently Prii aren't even always as fuel efficient as M3s!

Jump to 3:33.

Park2670 · 01-08-2013, 02:55 PM

Same worry I always have. And state to others.

Its not me I am worried about, especially in the snow. Its the other people around me.

llis · 01-08-2013, 03:04 PM

Skinny tires = low rolling resistance = better fuel economy
-and-
Skinny tires = smaller contact patch = less stopping friction = longer stopping distance = less safe.

Next topic: "Smart" for Two.

bvanderbilt · 01-08-2013, 03:05 PM

Saw a Honda CR-V apparently without working or standard ABS hit the brakes hard, lock the front wheels, and spin rear-first into the lane next to it, which was the lane I was in, one car length behind.

As cars continue to become more and more economy tools to get from point A to B people will treat them with less and less care. So you get roads full of cars with failing or non-operational safety systems, completely bald tires, and inattentive drivers.

Not that sports car drivers are any better, whenever I walk around the city I'm amazed how many nice cars with bald tires there are. Or BMWs on NANKANG or whatever the heck discount tires they sell at Pepboys.

W/// · 01-08-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bvanderbilt

Saw a Honda CR-V apparently without working or standard ABS hit the brakes hard, lock the front wheels, and spin rear-first into the lane next to it, which was the lane I was in, one car length behind.

As cars continue to become more and more economy tools to get from point A to B people will treat them with less and less care. So you get roads full of cars with failing or non-operational safety systems, completely bald tires, and inattentive drivers.

Not that sports car drivers are any better, whenever I walk around the city I'm amazed how many nice cars with bald tires there are. Or BMWs on NANKANG or whatever the heck discount tires they sell at Pepboys.

Not really like this is a trend or anything. There have always been cars on worthless tires for decades and decades.

P.S. The M3 rotor is as big as my stock OEM wheels on my E30

Purple Derple · 01-08-2013, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llis

Skinny tires = low rolling resistance = better fuel economy
-and-
Skinny tires = smaller contact patch = less stopping friction = longer stopping distance = less safe.

Next topic: "Smart" for Two.

Wider tires are presumably heavier than skinny tires and that is rotating mass so this isn't an absolute especially if the brakes aren't up to snuff.

minigearhead · 01-08-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jphughan

Yeah, and apparently Prii aren't even always as fuel efficient as M3s!

Jump to 3:33.

awww, I wanted to post that

I'ts true though, because almost all of the prius drivers I see drive like absolute douches, like they are trying to prove something. Like their manliness.

xiliy · 01-08-2013, 03:23 PM

It seems like seeing you in a rear view mirror makes drivers very nervous and they forget to brake on time.

thekurgan · 01-08-2013, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiliy

It seems like seeing you in a rear view mirror makes drivers very nervous and they forget to brake on time.

... because most drivers are jerkin' the gherk instead of paying attention.

highyo · 01-08-2013, 04:15 PM

surprised no one has mentioned hard break lights. i make it a point now to turn my hazards on when i come to an abrupt stop. its peace of mind

skins333 · 01-08-2013, 04:18 PM

Man you must have been happy to see that db9! Worst would have been to look back and see another Prius.

sensi09 · 01-08-2013, 04:25 PM

Nothing that an attentive driver should be able to avoid while driving any car.

nbennettksu · 01-08-2013, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skins333

Man you must have been happy to see that db9! Worst would have been to look back and see another Prius.

Vic311 · 01-08-2013, 04:32 PM

Nice to have the performance

Even nicer to have the stopping power

Vic311 · 01-08-2013, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llis

Next topic: "Smart" for Two.

IDK..Smart car is making bold claims on the saftey of their tridion cage..

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/smart-car1.htm

UCBPhD · 01-08-2013, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic311

IDK..Smart car is making bold claims on the saftey of their tridion cage..

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/smart-car1.htm

Sarcasm noted, but for those who didn't catch it . . .

"Oh look, nothing happened . . .", and, of course, we all know it is a totally valid test, since the energy imparted by a body at 0 MPH (static loading) is the same as the energy imparted by a body at, say, 70 MPH (dynamic loading).

Sadly, since most people don't know even rudimentary physics, most people will probably be impressed with that commercial . . .

1MOREMOD · 01-08-2013, 05:31 PM

he said dynamic load.

325rider · 01-08-2013, 05:55 PM

Good top gear video def seen before. BUT, to have a comeback on his general statement of, "its not what you drive its how you drive it", I can't get better than 20 mpg in the city no matter how slow i drive. Im sure in a prius i'd be hitting 30+

Seent it.... But yea, his point has some validity for sure.

nitpicking

01-08-2013, 01:32 PM	#1
dreamspeed Lieutenant Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 505 iTrader: (0)	The reason why M3 > Prius Driving home on the 10 East the other day I was cruising in moderate traffic (40-50mph) when for no apparent reason traffic comes to a complete stop. The Prius driver in front of me slams on the brakes, the tires start screeching and the car quite literally slides into the truck in front of it. All this happens in a matter of seconds but it played out in slow motion in front of me. I hit the brakes as soon as i see the prius brake lights but something wasn't computing in my head. This prius seems like it's trying desperately to stop so i'm thinking i better slam on my brakes but yet i know at the speed i'm going and the distance i have between me and the prius i don't have to step on the brakes that hard So I apply moderate force on the brakes and stop well in back of the Prius...but in these situations i'm usually not afraid of hitting the guy in front of me...i'm afraid the guy in back of me won't stop in time and rear end me....i look in my rear view mirror and what car do i see? A DB9! Obviously the guy stops in time. Lesson of the day: Prevent accidents drive sports/sporty cars. Ironically I was in almost the exact same situation a few years ago in my 350z. Civic in front of me hits the guy in front of him, i stop in time, i look up at the rear view mirror and see a Scion tc and think CRAP....and bam he rear ends me. __________________
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01-08-2013, 01:52 PM	#2
e1000 that's what SHE said! Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: OC Posts: 966 iTrader: (0)	M3 60 to 0 stopping distance = 100ft Prius 60 to 0 stopping distance = 131ft wow. __________________

01-08-2013, 02:14 PM	#4
thekurgan Bad Lieutenant Drives: E90M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,889 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Just to see the DB9 would be sweet! All priuses must die! __________________ 08 E90M3 6MT Alpinweiss/Carbon

01-08-2013, 02:21 PM	#5
jphughan Colonel Drives: 2011.75 M3 E92 6MT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,167 iTrader: (0)	Yeah, and apparently Prii aren't even always as fuel efficient as M3s! Jump to 3:33. __________________ 11 M3 E92 Le Mans \| Black Nov w/ Alum \| 6MT \| Premium 2 \| Convenience \| 19" \| EDC \| Prem Audio \| Moonroof \| BMW Apps \| Vorshlag Adjustable Camber Plates \| StopTech Street Perf Pads \| Castrol SRF Fluid \| ModMyNav.com rear camera Last edited by jphughan; 01-08-2013 at 02:28 PM.

01-08-2013, 02:55 PM	#6
Park2670 Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UTAH Posts: 17,958 iTrader: (5)	Same worry I always have. And state to others. Its not me I am worried about, especially in the snow. Its the other people around me. __________________ Utah Chat Thread 2011 335d ///M-Sport

01-08-2013, 01:56 PM	#3
Z K Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,245 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW E90 M3 [0.00]	Stick some high performance tires and brakes on the Prius and see what happens.

01-08-2013, 03:04 PM	#7
llis snarkarina Drives: M3s Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,000 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [5.00] 1998 BMW M3 (GTS-2) [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	Skinny tires = low rolling resistance = better fuel economy -and- Skinny tires = smaller contact patch = less stopping friction = longer stopping distance = less safe. Next topic: "Smart" for Two. __________________ 2013 E92 ///M3 ZCP 6MT » 1998 E36 ///M3 [GTS-2] Toot Sweet Racing

01-08-2013, 03:05 PM	#8
bvanderbilt Private First Class Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	Saw a Honda CR-V apparently without working or standard ABS hit the brakes hard, lock the front wheels, and spin rear-first into the lane next to it, which was the lane I was in, one car length behind. As cars continue to become more and more economy tools to get from point A to B people will treat them with less and less care. So you get roads full of cars with failing or non-operational safety systems, completely bald tires, and inattentive drivers. Not that sports car drivers are any better, whenever I walk around the city I'm amazed how many nice cars with bald tires there are. Or BMWs on NANKANG or whatever the heck discount tires they sell at Pepboys.

01-08-2013, 03:23 PM	#12
xiliy First Lieutenant Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 388 iTrader: (8)	It seems like seeing you in a rear view mirror makes drivers very nervous and they forget to brake on time.

01-08-2013, 04:15 PM	#14
highyo Banned Drives: M3, X5 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: nYc Posts: 408 iTrader: (0)	surprised no one has mentioned hard break lights. i make it a point now to turn my hazards on when i come to an abrupt stop. its peace of mind

01-08-2013, 04:18 PM	#15
skins333 Captain Drives: '08 E93 BMW M3 MR/'12 x5d SG Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 798 iTrader: (2)	Man you must have been happy to see that db9! Worst would have been to look back and see another Prius.

01-08-2013, 04:25 PM	#16
sensi09 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: socal Posts: 1,510 iTrader: (1)	Nothing that an attentive driver should be able to avoid while driving any car.

01-08-2013, 04:32 PM	#18
Vic311 Zen Drives: 2011 e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: CA Posts: 848 iTrader: (0)	Nice to have the performance Even nicer to have the stopping power

01-08-2013, 05:31 PM	#21
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	he said dynamic load. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

01-08-2013, 05:55 PM	#22
325rider Zyzz Follower Drives: '11 e90 M3 6mt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 295 iTrader: (1)	Good top gear video def seen before. BUT, to have a comeback on his general statement of, "its not what you drive its how you drive it", I can't get better than 20 mpg in the city no matter how slow i drive. Im sure in a prius i'd be hitting 30+ Seent it.... But yea, his point has some validity for sure. nitpicking

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