26 people were killed in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary

[Nate4641]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

ALL of these type of tragedies are a result of irresponsible gun ownership.

Exactly. The issue isnt gun ownership, it's responsibility.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by Nate4641

Exactly. The issue isnt gun ownership, it's responsibility.

Exactly, however you can legislate ownership but not responsibility.

[UncleWede]

What makes you think those teachers who already have CCW, are NOT carrying into the classroom today????

[Nate4641]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Exactly, however you can legislate ownership but not responsibility.

A federal system to require classroom and range time in order to buy would be an improvement. It would be hard to push for, but if it went through it would be good. Also making the purchase a hassel would deter people from buying unless if they really wanted them.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Nate4641

A federal system to require classroom and range time in order to buy would be an improvement. It would be hard to push for, but if it went through it would be good. Also making the purchase a hassel would deter people from buying unless if they really wanted them.

I very much support that. You have to take a written test as well as a field competency test to obtain a drivers license so why not the same for a firearm?

When I took my CC class I found the information very useful and felt it should be imparted to everyone before purchasing a gun. You should have to prove you are aware of the laws, protocols, etc as well as prove you can load and fire a gun downrange before being able to purchase one.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by Nate4641

A federal system to require classroom and range time in order to buy would be an improvement. It would be hard to push for, but if it went through it would be good. Also making the purchase a hassel would deter people from buying unless if they really wanted them.

California does not require range time, but we do have everything else on your list. The seller is required to walk you through the function of the gun etc

we have a written test with a card that expires after a number of years, and a 10 day waiting period.

I do not know exactly, but I believe nj and ct have similarly strict laws

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

What makes you think those teachers who already have CCW, are NOT carrying into the classroom today????

Because even with a CCW it is illegal to carry on any school property.

[ChaneRZ]

10 round magazine limit in CA ( unless you have a pre ban mag )
1 handgun in 30 days
10 day wait on all handgun and rifle purchase

[1LRM3]

Originally Posted by MP0WER

Because even with a CCW it is illegal to carry on any school property.

with the permission of admin, you can carry as a teacher in TX.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by 1LRM3

with the permission of admin, you can carry as a teacher in TX.

Yes, aside from TX.

[carve]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

I very much support that. You have to take a written test as well as a field competency test to obtain a drivers license so why not the same for a firearm?

I don't necessarily disagree, but the answer to your question is because keeping and bearing arms is a right, and driving is a privilege.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by carve

I don't necessarily disagree, but the answer to your question is because keeping and bearing arms is a right, and driving is a privilege.

Good point... but voting is a right and you still need to register to vote. I dont think taking an exam and a quick shooting test is infringing on your rights under the 2nd amendment.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Good point... but voting is a right and you still need to register to vote. I dont think taking an exam and a quick shooting test is infringing on your rights under the 2nd amendment.

We register to vote so the Gov knows that we indeed do have the right to vote. I'm sure they use those figures for other things as well. I don't really have a problem with this process as long as it's intent is to:

1. Ensure you are a US citizen, (have the right to own a gun)
2. Make sure you haven't been convicted of a crime which revokes your right to own a gun.
3. Checks your mental health back ground if any exists. (This will of course open up a debate about a persons mental health back ground when they were a minor.)
4. Is not used to track purchases of firearms and ammunition. (if you've cleared the screening process, there is no need to keep track of what we purchase)

[ChaneRZ]

You do not have be be a citizen to own a gun!