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      12-21-2012, 05:31 PM   #23
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I wouldn't count the car out.

In most cases, you have no idea if the car was tracked or how it was driven.
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      12-21-2012, 06:05 PM   #24
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Am I missing something. ! Most of local enthusiasts track their car but spend tons of money on top of the line parts for dual purpose. The m3 engine and tranny are fully capable of supporting additional track related stress so why is that a negative thing? You should be great full for the honesty because most of sellers that have tracked their car won't come clean because of this stereotype.
First question: Do you even track your car?

2nd question: Tracking your car will wear out the parts (brake, suspension, tire, engine, etc). You ever thought about that?
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      12-21-2012, 07:01 PM   #25
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5000 track miles!!!
Let's see, average lap about 2 miles, 2 goes inta 5000 2500 times. Hmm..... 2500 laps. Car not broken in until 3-4K miles. That car has seen a lot of laps in its last 6k miles. The word 'flogged' comes to mind.
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      12-21-2012, 07:39 PM   #26
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5000 track miles!!!
Lol my bad 5k miles right
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      12-21-2012, 08:54 PM   #27
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Ok maybe I am missing something here..tracked cars maybe well taken care of by their owners but I still can't see a tracked car not experiencing more wear than a non-tracked one..seems like common sense to me
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      12-22-2012, 07:47 AM   #28
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I don't think that tracking is necessarily a problem, but you should check a few things out. Most important, see if you can determine whether it was ever over-revved. (Can this be determined by a dealer or independent shop with the proper equipment?) I wouldn't worry about engine damage by tracking. Drivers who track their cars tend to have higher skill levels and take better care of the car. I've had numerous BMW techs say that the engines that last longest are the ones that are regularly exercised through their operating range - and the ones driven gently don't seem to last as long. Cars that are tracked can be exercised without abuse.

There will certainly be more wear on brakes and suspension. These are the things to check out. Front rotors go for about $700 just for the parts, and a car with that many track miles could be long overdue for a new set. (That cost doesn't include the rears or the pads, either.). The other things to check out are suspension bushings, mounting points, wheel bearings, etc. a good tech should be able to spot problems easily. If some of this stuff has been replaced, I'd view it as an indication that the previous owner took care of it.
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      12-22-2012, 08:47 AM   #29
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These cars are expensive to fix. If you plan on keeping it, don't buy a beater. I would rather buy a used M3 from a little old lady that never revs above 5500 rpms.
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Respect = for the Guy selling the M3 - that he told you he had tracked the car.

I've tracked since '08 and probably have 5,000 track miles just on my '11 M3, it is stressful on the car BUT I have never followed the recommended service level. I have paid for additional service and attention since safety is important. My BMW Technician and I have kept a complete service record and I would also like to believe that I have installed quality parts. My BMW Technician inspects my car prior to every Track event. He would probably say my M3 is in good shape.

OP: Like others have suggested, get a complete service history and if you really are interested in THIS M3, pay for a BMW Technician to completely go over the vehicle.

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      12-22-2012, 10:35 AM   #31
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I would pass and find a different car. Maybe there would be zero problems, as the car is designed to be capable on the track. But let's face it, that's a lot of wide-open stress on the engine and tranny.

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      12-22-2012, 12:00 PM   #32
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Let's not forget to mention clutch, belt, and hose stress. Radiators also seem more prone to failure on tracked cars (debris?). I guessing the car has experienced the odd drive through the rhubarb too. And of course gopher impacts.
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