Supercharged ESS VT2-625 M3 vs Mercedes-Benz AMG C63 Black Series

[flipm3]

Cool comparison Tom!

Roman, I cannot wait to see what your blower kit will do on the M156! I'm rather curious what type of supercharger you'll be using.

Anthony, AMAZING PIC!! C63BS is one of my all time favorite looking cars!!

[Cboy1]

Whoever thinks the C63 BS is ugly is high as f*ck... That must be a biased opinion solely because you drive a BMW M3? I'm an SA at a MBZ dealership and can honestly say that's one of the most funnest cars I've driven esp ones with the upgraded P30(performance) package. Car handles extremely well and yes even though it has massive amounts of TQ it's still a blast to drive and people literally break their necks looking at it.

[j2m]

Originally Posted by Cboy1

Whoever thinks the C63 BS is ugly is high as f*ck... That must be a biased opinion solely because you drive a BMW M3? I'm an SA at a MBZ dealership and can honestly say that's one of the most funnest cars I've driven esp ones with the upgraded P30(performance) package. Car handles extremely well and yes even though it has massive amounts of TQ it's still a blast to drive and people literally break their necks looking at it.

But yet you drive an M3?

[alms211]

That C63BS is beautiful and so damn aggressive looking. I'd have one in an instant!!

[img]

Originally Posted by Ohh_5H1T

Damn dude u have one of these too? Ballinnnnnnn

For my cousin !

[David@ApexRaceParts]

Those fender flares

[Cboy1]

Originally Posted by j2m

But yet you drive an M3?

LOL yeah man hence why I'm not biased... Unbiased if anything... I'll admit from stock to stock an M3 versus a regular C63, the handling hands down IMO is better in an M3. The automatic transmission(DCT) in an M3 is by far a lot better and more responsive... I drive AMG's all day long and I've also driven some fast M's but the C63 Black Series is a whole other monster that BMW can't compete with in it's class(here in America).

[Ohh_5H1T]

Originally Posted by img

For my cousin !

The whole entire fam is ballin! lol

[nerwyll@trinityautosport]

Originally Posted by bape_sta206

I'd take one.

+1 =)

[GOVCO]

BMW fanboy persona aside, I can appreciate a nice looking car.

[M3PO]

Originally Posted by Alex07M3

I know beauty is subjective but I don't think it can be called f***en ugly, personnally, I love what Merc as done with this car and could only dream of BMW doing the same with the M3!! I think it's one of the most bad-ass car you can drive in the street!

Agree to disagree! Firstly, it looks like an Accord coupe with a hideous body kit. Second, look at that Pep Boys wing. F***en ugly!

Originally Posted by Alex07M3

if you think the C63 BS is ugly, you must think that this is an absolute monstrosity!?

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Totally different animals. Form follows function. There is no need for any of that gawdy crap on the BS. You can't argue with the function of the crazy stuff on that DTM car, THAT is it's beauty!

Originally Posted by Cboy1

Whoever thinks the C63 BS is ugly is high as f*ck... That must be a biased opinion solely because you drive a BMW M3? I'm an SA at a MBZ dealership and can honestly say that's one of the most funnest cars I've driven esp ones with the upgraded P30(performance) package. Car handles extremely well and yes even though it has massive amounts of TQ it's still a blast to drive and people literally break their necks looking at it.

I'm the one that's high? You just tried to make an argument about how it's not ugly based on how good it drives!

I'm not a BMW or M3 nuthugger at all. A lot of my posts around here reflect that.

[Alex07M3]

Originally Posted by M3PO

Agree to disagree! Firstly, it looks like an Accord coupe with a hideous body kit. Second, look at that Pep Boys wing. F***en ugly!



Totally different animals. Form follows function. There is no need for any of that gawdy crap on the BS. You can't argue with the function of the crazy stuff on that DTM car, THAT is it's beauty!

Maybe it looks a bit like an accord, but what's wrong about the Accord is not its look, it's the performance! And that Pep Boy wing is an option that come in the track pack with some other aero parts! You can also order it like that if you don't like downforce:

p.s. And how exactly do you know that the wider body of the BS has no benefits on the handling!?

[Cboy1]

Originally Posted by M3PO

I'm the one that's high? You just tried to make an argument about how it's not ugly based on how good it drives!

I'm not a BMW or M3 nuthugger at all. A lot of my posts around here reflect that.

Okay my mistake I went off tangent, but perhaps you haven't seen the car up close to appreciate it's exterior designing or perhaps you don't appreciate the aggressiveness of the body styling? I don't know... I'm not here to wage war with you behind a screen about our opinions but it's for sure not ugly IMO... Since it's debut I've only seen three here at the dealership, a white one, a black one, and a matte black one, and honestly man they all look good and damn near drive good... Now for the price however I'd opt to get something different but for a vehicle in it's class it's damn near untouchable.

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Originally Posted by Ohh_5H1T

The whole entire fam is ballin! lol

[Chriskm3]

Any of you noticed the benz tq line on the Dyno? Compared to sc m3 . It's a thing of beauty

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Any of you noticed the benz tq line on the Dyno? Compared to sc m3 . It's a thing of beauty

Weird that you said that as I was thinking that it must be a blast to drive around town...tons of usable torque and it doesn't fall off much by redline.

However....the torque curve of the SC M3 is a thing of beauty. The AMG's curve looks archaic in comparison.

[Chriskm3]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Weird that you said that as I was thinking that it must be a blast to drive around town...tons of usable torque and it doesn't fall off much by redline.

However....the torque curve of the SC M3 is a thing of beauty. The AMG's curve looks archaic in comparison.

Can you post a pic of your Dyno. I'd like to see your tq curve

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Can you post a pic of your Dyno. I'd like to see your tq curve

Sure here you go:

[Chriskm3]

Nice power. Thanks.

[Cboy1]

Originally Posted by anthony @ eas

You just can't argue with those proper fender flares though...

Hahaha hey I work at House of Imports, just noticed this picture... Would you mind telling me the customers name? I believe I serviced this guy's vehicle or test drove it after service.

[Tuner1]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Ours has been fun to drive. The car has tons of TQ and a nasty sounding exhaust. Wait until we release our supercharger for it

I think the C63 BS is a very impressive machine. The looks are a bit too extrovert for me and the transmission isn't my fave but the rest of the car is seriously impressive. Please tell us more about the '63 SC kit!

[erm324]

Originally Posted by Tuner1

I think the C63 BS is a very impressive machine. The looks are a bit too extrovert for me and the transmission isn't my fave but the rest of the car is seriously impressive. Please tell us more about the '63 SC kit!

Weistec currently has different level kits available for that platform, so expect something similar to this:
http://www.weistec.com/m156scs3.html

Cant wait to see the ESS setup !