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      12-11-2012, 09:37 PM   #1
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Guys, help.. I test drove a Jag.

I hope this is the right section. I mean, its M3 related.

So here's the story: I dropped my M3 off for oil and "intake silencer". I never sit in the waiting room because of how bored I get, so I took a walk to the Maserati/Jaguar dealership where I got my GT. My salesman saw me and asked what I was up to, told him I was getting my BMW serviced and I was just looking at their inventory. He asked how much time I said, and I replied with 2 hours...

20 minutes later I was test driving a 2013 Jaguar XFR barreling down the road at 120MPH. Now, before the M3 my daily was a 600rwhp Camaro, and that was my benchmark for this test drive. I was impressed. It has tons and tons of torque and loves to push you back into the seat. It's EXTREMELY comfortable and I think I even prefer the interior to the M3. It's just.. a really nice package.

I'm not sure what to do. Half of me says dump the M3 and grab the Jag, the other half says I'm being stupid.
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      12-11-2012, 09:42 PM   #2
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Don't do it man (yet)..too many new models coming out soon. Jag F-type coupe included, but also of course new m3/m4. May as well check them all out before deciding.
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      12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #3
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The F-type does look good, but I haven't been able to find any performance figures...

I do, however, have an idea. My Granturismo is going in for a routine service and a tune from the dealer to add a few horses and a few torques. They told me that "the cheapest rental car you will ever get is a jaguar!" I think I'm going to request the XFR as a rental car..
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      12-11-2012, 09:47 PM   #4
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The Xfr is 100k if I'm not mistaken. You could get a lightly used cl63 for that money. The 2012s and newer can get 700 hp with very light mods. It also has a much nicer interior.
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The Xfr is 100k if I'm not mistaken. You could get a lightly used cl63 for that money. The 2012s and newer can get 700 hp with very light mods. It also has a much nicer interior.
Well I've had my modding fun with my past cars. After that Camaro I've learned to keep modding out of my dailies. I DO like the C63, but I like the M3 more. I actually prefer the XFR's interior.. I like how the vents and shifter pop up when you turn it on and the seats are SO SO SO comfortable. The one I was in had black/red leather with piano black accents. Looked so good. I dont like how much plastic there is, but they make it look nice, so I guess it's okay. EDIT: cant forget the backup camera! Today was my first time using one of those and they're cool!

One thing I didnt check was if it had navigation or not? That's a MUST have. I'm gonig to look that up now..
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      12-11-2012, 09:52 PM   #6
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The Xfr is 100k if I'm not mistaken. You could get a lightly used cl63 for that money. The 2012s and newer can get 700 hp with very light mods. It also has a much nicer interior.
Well I've had my modding fun with my past cars. After that Camaro I've learned to keep modding out of my dailies. I DO like the C63, but I like the M3 more. I actually prefer the XFR's interior.. I like how the vents and shifter pop up when you turn it on and the seats are SO SO SO comfortable. The one I was in had black/red leather with piano black accents. Looked so good. I dont like how much plastic there is, but they make it look nice, so I guess it's okay. EDIT: cant forget the backup camera! Today was my first time using one of those and they're cool!
The c63 and cl63 are different. One competes with a Bentley the other with a BMW. Stock the cl63 has 550hp.
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      12-11-2012, 10:59 PM   #7
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If it matters to you...Jags depreciate like rocks.
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      12-11-2012, 11:29 PM   #8
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i personally associate jags with 90 year olds.. but thats just me lol
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      12-11-2012, 11:44 PM   #9
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Might just be me but I don't think any of the jaguars look good... Not even the E type
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      12-12-2012, 12:01 AM   #10
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i personally associate jags with 90 year olds.. but thats just me lol
I'm not 90. Would that make me a sleeper?
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      12-12-2012, 12:11 AM   #11
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I'm not 90. Would that make me a sleeper?
Only if you look it.

It's your money.
Do what you like.

Then report back and let us all know what you did with your money.
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      12-12-2012, 12:15 AM   #12
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U like it. Get it. No one here can advise you on what you enjoy driving more.
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      12-12-2012, 12:17 AM   #13
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At least get this one, without the spoiler!

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      12-12-2012, 12:42 AM   #14
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It does irritate me how boring the colors are. Nothing bright or skittle-like in the option list. They're all very dark colors. White, silver, gray, black, dark blue, maroon, blackish green..
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      12-12-2012, 12:43 AM   #15
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At least get this one, without the spoiler!

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XFR-S in Black with Spoiler Delete. I like.
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      12-12-2012, 12:43 AM   #16
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Jag has never really been known for reliability and it's my understanding that since Tata bought them they've become significantly worse.
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Jag and M3 are totally differant cars. I think if the extra space/size suits you, go for it. I'm a fan of smaller cars, so I wouldn't even consider an XFR. M5 is also too big for me, but I'd definately make sure I drove one of those before considering another make.
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Jag has never really been known for reliability and it's my understanding that since Tata bought them they've become significantly worse.
Correct --> Google tells me:

"Consumer Reports just published their list of most (and least) reliable cars for the 2012 model year.

The absolute worst in reliability: The 2012 Jaguar XF
The second worst in reliability: The 2012 Jaguar XJ"

Ouch.
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I personally dont like the new Jag's.
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      12-12-2012, 08:07 AM   #20
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im sure its plenty fast but maybe consider other cars in the range. amg, other sports saloons. jags are nice but dont hold value. i also feel the xf is going to be a dated body soon. i would hold onto m3 and try out new f80 m3 when it comes out next year.
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At least get this one, without the spoiler!

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that thing looks good, but beyond the fornt bumper, I cant tell if its an evo or a jag
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Correct --> Google tells me:

"Consumer Reports just published their list of most (and least) reliable cars for the 2012 model year.

The absolute worst in reliability: The 2012 Jaguar XF
The second worst in reliability: The 2012 Jaguar XJ"

Ouch.

Consumer reports is bought and paid for. I find their opinions to be crap.
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