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      11-26-2012, 02:24 AM   #45
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Badge be damned, if the car is great, then no reason not to get it. The problem with the E9X M3 is, or rather looking past it to a newer model, is the intoxicating intake sound. The S65 is just too damn fantastic of an engine, and it's been mated to a great chassis (would have been a fantastic chassis if it was a bit lighter). I cannot imagine another daily driver where I won't get to hear that beautful intake. But if the F80 M3 is a great car, which it can be, I couldn't care less if other, lesser cars have the M badge on them.

As for JC, here he is recently on the E9X M3 (skip to 18:00 for the M3):

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      11-26-2012, 08:39 AM   #46
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So, let me get this straight... You bought your M3 not because of the driving experience it delivers, but because of some feeling of exclusivity?

I haven't owned as many M3s as some of the members here, but the reason I wanted one was because I knew it would be a lot of fun to drive. I am less concerned about what the model number is compared to other cars.
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      11-26-2012, 08:52 AM   #47
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Speaking of fakes, if BMW puts Active Sound in the next M3/4 I'm done completely with the brand.
yes, that is some bullsh!t
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It's one thing for some buffoon to put an M badge on something that doesn't deserve it...it's another for a multi-billion dollar corporation to do the exact same thing and keep a straight face.
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      11-26-2012, 09:04 AM   #48
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A limited few people can afford true M Cars. That being said everyone wants one. So BMW is doing the smart thing by having "M" packages for lesser cars. That gives them the sales numbers to still produce true performance sports cars for those that can afford them. We don't want BMW to go the way Honda and Toyota did when they stopped producing any cars that were performance oriented and only went for the masses.

I would have loved a 128 or a 135 with the M package on it when I was younger knowing that the next step was an M3. I would have emphasized that it had the "M" package on it to emphasize sporty. They make great cars. Period.
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      11-26-2012, 10:11 AM   #49
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all you have to do is to pick out the 'real' m cars from the marketing 'm' cars....if they preserve the basic character of the m3 in the next iteration, as i suspect they will, it will be a great vehicle.
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      11-26-2012, 10:29 AM   #50
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Thanks for all your feedback on this issue. I like to point out that I truly like my M3, however, I am truly disappointed for the future of this fine automobile as to where it is being taken. For example to plan to call the future coupe an M4 after all the championships the M3 has achieved I just don't get it.

Nevertheless, some interesting viewpoints on this issue indeed.

Also I like to clarify that I will keep my M3 for quite sometime, after all I sold my e46 so to get into the last V8 M3. In my OP I merely pointed out that it will be my last one.

Some of the posters pointed to Mercedes and the AMG line. I happen to own a C350 4MATIC it came with the AMG wheels. This does NOT mean that Mercedes plasters the AMG badge on the back of the car.

Nope. The AMG package is cosmetic only. It adds larger AMG rims and tires, a skirt and bumper package, and some other trim but it does not involve any modifications to the engine or any changes to the handling ( other than the wheels with the more sticky rubber My C350 4MATIC is our DD and when I got it from the Dealer it came with the package.
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      11-26-2012, 10:57 AM   #51
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We'd be happy to, but BMW doesn't make those kind of cars anymore.
Make a time machine like this, go back in time and buy one.

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      11-26-2012, 11:00 AM   #52
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A lot of great points on here. I thought I was the only one that didn't like the fact that BMW was "m" -ing everything. People buy the M3 because it is an M3 and it is significantly different from the 328 and the 335. I have come across a few people that were like, "I drive a M3," when they acutally drive the 335is or 335i. I feel like BMW is devaluing the M3. The difference between the M cars and non M cars is starting to close in.
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      11-26-2012, 11:27 AM   #53
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And then keep your beloved E92 m3. Don't express your OCD thoughts here. For pure driving pleasure nothing comes close to a stripped-out racing ready M car say E30, if some of you will agree. HOWEVER, the way you want to live with your car everyday is what matters the most. And I'm afraid many here would have to nod their heads. Unfortunately not all of us can afford a track car. And for now I really think BMW has managed it well.
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      11-26-2012, 12:19 PM   #54
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      11-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #55
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Thanks for all your feedback on this issue. I like to point out that I truly like my M3, however, I am truly disappointed for the future of this fine automobile as to where it is being taken. For example to plan to call the future coupe an M4 after all the championships the M3 has achieved I just don't get it.

Nevertheless, some interesting viewpoints on this issue indeed.

Also I like to clarify that I will keep my M3 for quite sometime, after all I sold my e46 so to get into the last V8 M3. In my OP I merely pointed out that it will be my last one.

Some of the posters pointed to Mercedes and the AMG line. I happen to own a C350 4MATIC it came with the AMG wheels. This does NOT mean that Mercedes plasters the AMG badge on the back of the car.

Nope. The AMG package is cosmetic only. It adds larger AMG rims and tires, a skirt and bumper package, and some other trim but it does not involve any modifications to the engine or any changes to the handling ( other than the wheels with the more sticky rubber My C350 4MATIC is our DD and when I got it from the Dealer it came with the package.
Again, I want to mention what I said before. So all you have a problem with is the badging then? You have no idea how the next generation will even drive, but it's not good enough because of a badge?

Take the car for what it is. If the next gen comes out and turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread, how foolish would it be to ignore it because it no longer carries the M3 sticker on the trunk.

So you are saying it's OK for AMG to offer cosmetic changes only and slap AMG badges all over the car, but not OK for ///M to do the same thing? That's what it sounds like to me.

I don't understand how people think like this? How about you wait until the car comes out first?
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      11-26-2012, 01:27 PM   #56
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You got that right my friend, from the expression on her face an ///M badged Bimmer just past on her street and scared her beloved cats.
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      11-26-2012, 01:45 PM   #57
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not your last! why not pick up an e30 now. should make a nice set
i think you shouldn't be too hung up on this though. life is about change. give the M4 a test drive. you might like it.
i drove 991 C2S a few times now and own a 997. before i was no way i would buy a 911 with an electric steering and sound tube. well 991 kicks butt! love it! not sure i would want to part with my 997 as it is now even more of a classic. but i have my eye on 991 turbo. maybe slightly used
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not your last! why not pick up an e30 now. should make a nice set
You make some good points, however, we still have my very first e29 a 535is from 1987 it just passed the 25 year mark and the family member I gave it to will never ever sell her. The 535is at that time was just one step below the the then M5. Sill love driving that car whenever I can the gears shift as smooth as in a 911 ... Well almost as smooth

You see I go back some 25 years of having Bimmers in the Family, I like some folks just happen to agree with JC and why not its a free country

Good luck with your hunt for that 991 I'm sure if you look on the right placed you will find her
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      11-26-2012, 03:23 PM   #59
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My e93 M will be my last BMW as well. I hate the fact that BMW has been whoring out the M badge.
Says the guy with a convertible.
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      11-26-2012, 03:25 PM   #60
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This will be my first and last M car but not for the badging reason stated in the OP.
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Like they say. Don't knock it till you try it.

*note: Everyone that says this is their last one will be lined up for a test drive when they hit the show room in 2014

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The interwebs sure is a great place to bitch and moan about nonsense.
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The New M3/M4 will own the yard once again. Everyone will rave about how great the turbo 6 runs once they get their hands on it.
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Is this an assumption, or do you have facts? M is under the same fuel economy policy now so we will see.


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