Will be comparing this beast to the M3 soon - Page 3

Raucky2000 · 11-13-2012, 05:14 PM

wow...killer, enjoy.

spdy330 · 11-13-2012, 10:49 PM

Congrats!

STi_traitor · 11-24-2012, 05:11 AM

Boner!

Alen E90 · 11-24-2012, 05:36 AM

WOW, WOW, WOOOOOOW

congrats!

S65NAPWR · 11-24-2012, 08:01 AM

Very nice!

Note: the center lock wheels have been known to have issues (unlocking unexpectedly) and coming off.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...5-25-12-a.html

jml · 11-24-2012, 11:31 AM

Yep, thanks for the heads up - well aware of it. Studs break too. Centerlocks are no more/less safe than conventional studs if you use them correctly. A giant PITA - yes, I think I have the morning torque/inspection procedure down to 25min. The biggest issue I have found is bleeding brakes without the car completely in the air (you have to compress the brakes to remove a nut...) but with SRF, this process is a once a year deal.

Ready for the next trackday:

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leo95se · 11-25-2012, 08:09 AM

What a car. Our m's just aren't truly track cars. Sigh..

05Mdriver · 11-25-2012, 02:27 PM

beautiful.. congrats !!

1MOREMOD · 11-25-2012, 03:16 PM

i want. thats sweet you can fit that much tire.

jml · 03-07-2013, 10:48 PM

Progression of learning the car, and the difference between <10 heat cycles on hoosiers and more than 10. Best lap time was on BFG R1s...right before I realized a rear tire has going flat...new wheel was leaking.

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Best lap I have on video...wish I had some of the E90 to compare to.

dawgdog · 03-10-2013, 01:43 PM

I made the same decision a few months ago. Have been to one skills day and two winter track days. Car is so much fun but need more practice. Car almost all sorted out now with suspension, diff., steel brakes, bar and harnesses.

SpiralOut · 03-10-2013, 04:51 PM

Sweet car. Congrats!

davesaddiction · 03-18-2013, 05:04 PM

Incredible machines. Thanks for giving us something to aspire to, guys.

Hope to get my first track days with the M3 in at MSR (w The Driver's Edge) this summer.

dagolfpro · 03-18-2013, 08:26 PM

lenzm3edan · 03-19-2013, 07:53 PM

, WOW!

admranger · 03-19-2013, 10:39 PM

Make sure you get a good alignment and corner balance on those. From what other GT3 drivers have told me (not GT3 RS, but still); Porsche assumes the car will be set up by a race shop with the owner in the driver's seat, so they don't do anything but a rudimentary alignment and no corner balance.

BTW: I want

dawgdog · 03-20-2013, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger

Make sure you get a good alignment and corner balance on those. From what other GT3 drivers have told me (not GT3 RS, but still); Porsche assumes the car will be set up by a race shop with the owner in the driver's seat, so they don't do anything but a rudimentary alignment and no corner balance.

BTW: I want

Yes, when you get one of these cars you are not done. I have done bar and harnesses, suspension (removed the rubber), differential, replaced ceramic brakes with Brembo rotors and Pagid pads, and 18" wheel with familiar track rubber. Will take me a while before I feel as comfortable as I was with the M3 which I had for 5 seasons. But went to the track today and this car is so much fun!

jml · 03-21-2013, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger

Make sure you get a good alignment and corner balance on those. From what other GT3 drivers have told me (not GT3 RS, but still); Porsche assumes the car will be set up by a race shop with the owner in the driver's seat, so they don't do anything but a rudimentary alignment and no corner balance.

BTW: I want

haha - I learned that the hard way. The first setup on the car was scary - I really thought I made a big mistake going this route.

T Bimmer · 03-21-2013, 09:58 AM

Nice! I seen your video and when you stated that you don't realize how fast you are going, it appears to be true just by watching your video until I looked at the speedometer and was like wow. Congrats!

admranger · 03-21-2013, 02:06 PM

Really sweet cars. 1.2-1.3g in the turns. Sick. I was surprised to see max of about 1g under braking. Maybe the track doesn't require a lot of braking, but I would routinely see 1.2g in my '95M3. Lots of weight transfer helped with the engine over the braking wheels. P-cars are different, but they could usually always out-brake me on open track days. Had to be careful not to get too close to their backside coming up to a turn.

What's the deal with removing the ceramic brakes? Are they crap on the track?

jml · 03-21-2013, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger

Really sweet cars. 1.2-1.3g in the turns. Sick. I was surprised to see max of about 1g under braking. Maybe the track doesn't require a lot of braking, but I would routinely see 1.2g in my '95M3. Lots of weight transfer helped with the engine over the braking wheels. P-cars are different, but they could usually always out-brake me on open track days. Had to be careful not to get too close to their backside coming up to a turn.

What's the deal with removing the ceramic brakes? Are they crap on the track?

Yeah, TWS is not that hard on brakes - but to be honest I'm probably not braking as hard as I could.

Four issues with ceramic

1) They cost $5000 for each rotor
2) They chip very easily, and once chipped, can lead to a failure - so need to be replaced.
3) They transfer more heat into the pads and fluid (the yellow calipers have a bunch of features, like ceramic pucks between the pads and pistons, to keep the heat out)
4) They chew through pads faster and rotors last about 2-3 times as long as OEM steel.

And as far as I can tell, as long as you don't overheat the steel rotors with race pads, which I have yet to do, the PCCBs offer no improvement in performance. NOW, I have not driven it on a brake heavy course. COTA at the BMW event in June will ultimately tell me the answer to this. Even if I did have a problem...I still don't think I would run PCCBs - they are just too baller for me. I put the PCCB rotors in the attic for the next owner.

admranger · 03-22-2013, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jml

Yeah, TWS is not that hard on brakes - but to be honest I'm probably not braking as hard as I could.

Four issues with ceramic

1) They cost $5000 for each rotor
2) They chip very easily, and once chipped, can lead to a failure - so need to be replaced.
3) They transfer more heat into the pads and fluid (the yellow calipers have a bunch of features, like ceramic pucks between the pads and pistons, to keep the heat out)
4) They chew through pads faster and rotors last about 2-3 times as long as OEM steel.

And as far as I can tell, as long as you don't overheat the steel rotors with race pads, which I have yet to do, the PCCBs offer no improvement in performance. NOW, I have not driven it on a brake heavy course. COTA at the BMW event in June will ultimately tell me the answer to this. Even if I did have a problem...I still don't think I would run PCCBs - they are just too baller for me. I put the PCCB rotors in the attic for the next owner.

Interesting info on the ceramic rotors.

Enjoy the car. I know I would!

11-13-2012, 10:49 PM	#46
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11-24-2012, 05:11 AM	#47
STi_traitor BPM Fighter Pilot Drives: BPM Sport '10 E90 ///M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 687 iTrader: (0)	Boner! __________________ Whomever said money cant buy happiness, never drove an ///M home after a really crappy day at work...

11-24-2012, 05:36 AM	#48
Alen E90 Major General Drives: E90 328i TiAg Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SO. CAL-818 (SFV) Posts: 5,416 iTrader: (4)	WOW, WOW, WOOOOOOW congrats! __________________

11-24-2012, 08:01 AM	#49
S65NAPWR Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tri-State Posts: 555 iTrader: (0)	Very nice! Note: the center lock wheels have been known to have issues (unlocking unexpectedly) and coming off. http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...5-25-12-a.html __________________

11-24-2012, 11:31 AM	#50
jml Captain Drives: E90M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 901 iTrader: (2)	Yep, thanks for the heads up - well aware of it. Studs break too. Centerlocks are no more/less safe than conventional studs if you use them correctly. A giant PITA - yes, I think I have the morning torque/inspection procedure down to 25min. The biggest issue I have found is bleeding brakes without the car completely in the air (you have to compress the brakes to remove a nut...) but with SRF, this process is a once a year deal. Ready for the next trackday: __________________ Britax Carseat \| Diaper Kit \| Redneck Cutouts \| Turner Studs \| Bassified Individual Audio Last edited by jml; 11-24-2012 at 11:40 AM.

11-13-2012, 05:14 PM	#45
Raucky2000 First Lieutenant Drives: SGM E90 M3 dct Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 391 iTrader: (1)	wow...killer, enjoy.

11-25-2012, 08:09 AM	#51
leo95se Lieutenant Drives: 09 JB e92, Q5 and passat Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Posts: 401 iTrader: (1)	What a car. Our m's just aren't truly track cars. Sigh..

11-25-2012, 02:27 PM	#52
05Mdriver Major Drives: 414hp Sedan Join Date: May 2010 Location: pa Posts: 1,204 iTrader: (39) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [5.00] 2005 BMW M3 [5.00]	beautiful.. congrats !! __________________

11-25-2012, 03:16 PM	#53
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,603 iTrader: (3)	i want. thats sweet you can fit that much tire. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|race pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|

03-07-2013, 10:48 PM	#54
jml Captain Drives: E90M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 901 iTrader: (2)	Progression of learning the car, and the difference between <10 heat cycles on hoosiers and more than 10. Best lap time was on BFG R1s...right before I realized a rear tire has going flat...new wheel was leaking. Best lap I have on video...wish I had some of the E90 to compare to. __________________ Britax Carseat \| Diaper Kit \| Redneck Cutouts \| Turner Studs \| Bassified Individual Audio

03-10-2013, 01:43 PM	#55
dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	I made the same decision a few months ago. Have been to one skills day and two winter track days. Car is so much fun but need more practice. Car almost all sorted out now with suspension, diff., steel brakes, bar and harnesses. Attached Images __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

03-10-2013, 04:51 PM	#56
SpiralOut Captain Drives: 2013 M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 673 iTrader: (8)	Sweet car. Congrats!

03-18-2013, 05:04 PM	#57
davesaddiction is fast cars Drives: '08 E90 M3 6MT SSII/Silver Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tulsa Posts: 748 iTrader: (0)	Incredible machines. Thanks for giving us something to aspire to, guys. Hope to get my first track days with the M3 in at MSR (w The Driver's Edge) this summer. __________________ ... Daddy's Rocket Sled! ... ... HarrisMonkey: "The saloon is definitely the M3 of choice."

03-18-2013, 08:26 PM	#58
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03-19-2013, 07:53 PM	#59
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03-19-2013, 10:39 PM	#60
admranger Private First Class Drives: 2002 M3, 2005 X5, 2011 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 153 iTrader: (0)	Make sure you get a good alignment and corner balance on those. From what other GT3 drivers have told me (not GT3 RS, but still); Porsche assumes the car will be set up by a race shop with the owner in the driver's seat, so they don't do anything but a rudimentary alignment and no corner balance. BTW: I want __________________ '11 E90 M3, Mebourne/Black/Fox Red/Black, 6MT, roof, PP2, heated seats, moonroof, split folding rear seats, iPod/USB adapter -- 8/8/11 euro delivery!

03-21-2013, 09:58 AM	#63
T Bimmer El Jefe Drives: e92 M3, e30 325i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: in Houston, but from Newark, NJ! Posts: 1,156 iTrader: (3)	Nice! I seen your video and when you stated that you don't realize how fast you are going, it appears to be true just by watching your video until I looked at the speedometer and was like wow. Congrats! __________________

03-21-2013, 02:06 PM	#64
admranger Private First Class Drives: 2002 M3, 2005 X5, 2011 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 153 iTrader: (0)	Really sweet cars. 1.2-1.3g in the turns. Sick. I was surprised to see max of about 1g under braking. Maybe the track doesn't require a lot of braking, but I would routinely see 1.2g in my '95M3. Lots of weight transfer helped with the engine over the braking wheels. P-cars are different, but they could usually always out-brake me on open track days. Had to be careful not to get too close to their backside coming up to a turn. What's the deal with removing the ceramic brakes? Are they crap on the track? __________________ '11 E90 M3, Mebourne/Black/Fox Red/Black, 6MT, roof, PP2, heated seats, moonroof, split folding rear seats, iPod/USB adapter -- 8/8/11 euro delivery!

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